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oldcar53 · 2009-03-11T05:30:09Z

Well I finally had my mtDNA performed and received the results today. I can now join Gary Felix's site for the mtDNA, Amerind project. My Haplogroup is A which arose about 50,000 years ago in Central Asia. Haplogroup A was first found among the aboriginal American population. It is one of the five mitochondrial lineages found in aboriginal Americans in North and South America. I guess thanks to my mother and my mother's mother's mothers, I am truly an American. Well I finally had my mtDNA performed and received the results today. I can now join Gary Felix's site for the mtDNA, Amerind project. My Haplogroup is A which arose about 50,000 years ago in Central Asia. Haplogroup A was first found among the aboriginal American population. It is one of the five mitochondrial lineages found in aboriginal Americans in North and South America. I guess thanks to my mother and my mother's mother's mothers, I am truly an American. Now that I've had myself tested, I'll have one of my brothers submit a sample for YDNA and mtDNA and wait to see what the results are. As the woman on the Comcast commercial says when she's running after the gentleman who's jogging on the track, and she approaches him in her heels and suit to share with him her great deal with Comcast and in conclusion she says, "I'm pumped" ................that's how I feel now...........I'm pumped and excited about my Native American ancestry. There were no high resolution matches to date, only low resolution matches, two from Mexico, one from the USA and one from England. I'm afraid I still don't know how to interpret the table with the HVR1 differences from CRS. If anyone has any wisdom to share with respect to DNA testing results and how to read or interpret the findings or knows of literature other than what's on the website that is comprehensive, I would appreciate your assistance. Alicia

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gnzlzspd

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Hi Pat:

My descendency line is from Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II, Married to Ana
Gonzalez Florida II. Their son, Melchor Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to
Beatriz Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba. Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II was my 10th
great grandfather. I haven’t followed their daughter’s line (Ana Gonzalez
married to Diego Sanchez-Carranza.)

I have my DNA results posted with GeneTree.

I did find two people that were are in the same haplogroup as I am in and
were very close matches, within 2 markers. These are the two people:Carlos
Ignacio Gonzalez and Michael Gonzalez, both are Med/Semitic and found in
the Gary Felix Database.

I hope this helps.

John Gonzalez.

—– Original Message —–
From: “Pat Corbera”
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 13:17
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo
Ancestry

>
> Hi John,
>
> Just a couple of questions/comments regarding your posting to Robert.
>
> My husband has Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Ana Gonzalez Florida
> as his 9th Great-Grandparents. This line descends via their daughter Ana
> Gonzalez married to Diego Sanchez-Carranza is this the same family that
> you noted in your posting?
>
> Have you posted your YDNA test results to YSEARCH (www.ysearch.org) and
> your mtDNA test results to MitoSearch (mitosearch.org)?
>
> Pat Silva Corbera

Posted : 12/03/2009 9:15 pm

gnzlzspd

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Posts: 275

Valle de Guadalupe is a few miles South of Jalostotitlán, and just a few
miles North of Pegueros, which is the town just above San Jose de Bazarte.
I went to Elementary, Junior High and High School in San Jose. I still have
family in Northern Cal. including a brother named Robert Gonzalez, in
Stockton.

Keep in touch.

John Gonzalez.

—– Original Message —–
From: “El Peregrino”
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 13:29
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results

>
> Thanks for the reply John, very nice to meet you ! I’ll be happy to share
> my results with you when I get them back…

Posted : 12/03/2009 10:30 pm

Sroblz

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Posts: 30

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My MTDNA is A and is posted on Felix site, male Cubillos DNA is from the Balkans(I?) and Rodriguez is Q3, Robles is R1bI. All on Felix site.

Hope to see some matches.

Diversity…and it keeps on with the additions of Swedes, Norwegians and Portuguese(Azoreans) to the Robles line and other Americans of Spanish-Mexican heritage.

Alot of ancient mixing in Espana, Mexico and the US. No superior pure group. Which is wonderful!

Moctezuma was royalty. I am not related, but those who are, are royalty.

Sylvia Rodriguez Robles

Posted : 12/03/2009 10:30 pm

Anonymous

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We’re everywhere ! ( Gonzalez) I will keep in touch hermano, as soon as I get back my results I’ll let you know what’s what. Robert ~

Posted : 12/03/2009 10:48 pm

Anonymous

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You’re right Sylvia, what’s amazing is that DNA testing takes us back to the source before cultures as we know them today were formed. It is important to honor our heritage and culture, but equally important, it gives us a broader sense of brother sisterhood with others as well as insight to who we “truly” are. I’m a student of Iberian Mexican history and one thing that always struck me was the wide diversity of cultures that poured their blood into making these countries and their inhabitants. Robert Gonzalez ~

Posted : 12/03/2009 11:30 pm

AlmightyMexijew

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Posts: 17

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Ahh I’m so jealous of all of you with your DNA tests. As a student with
meager funds, its been something put off by financial pressures 🙁 I can’t
wait til I can afford to do it. It’ll answer some questions I’ve got that
can’t be answered by family history or family trees…and maybe link to some
relatives, possibly some of you. Who knows…

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, El Peregrino wrote:

>
> We’re everywhere ! ( Gonzalez) I will keep in touch hermano, as soon as I
> get back my results I’ll let you know what’s what. Robert ~
>

Posted : 13/03/2009 2:00 am

oldcar53

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Posts: 776

Topic starter

Cole,
Don’t despair, some of us waited many many years for various reasons, someday you will get your chance, after all, your DNA won’t change or spoil, it will remain constant until the day when you can give yourself the gift of DNA. Perhaps you can ask family for a birthday gift donation, rather than an object, a $$$ donation towards your DNA test. I only paid $99.00 for my mt DNA through Gary Felix’s site, Family tree DNA.

Best to you……..Alicia, ……..San Jose, Calif

________________________________
From: Cole Tepper
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:46:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, El Peregrino wrote:

>
> We’re everywhere ! ( Gonzalez) I will keep in touch hermano, as soon as I
> get back my results I’ll let you know what’s what. Robert ~
>

Posted : 13/03/2009 3:00 am

Anonymous

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Hello john
How are you related to SantoToribio? My grandfather is a third cousin to Santo Toribio thrice, through the gutierrez once and through the gonzalez twice. He is a 4th cousin 6 times through the romo and gonzalez.
ricci
________________________________

From: announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 11:26 AM
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results

Hi Robert:

Sorry to say, but no, I am not related to either “Casillas or “Martin” I
belong to the Gonzalez de Hermosillo clan from Jalos. My Grandfather was
Gonzalez Gutierrez , born in “El Cuadrado” near Valle de Guadalupe, and my
Great Grandfather was born in “Los Portales”, near Jalos. My next four
grandfathers were from Santa Ana and the rest from Jalos, all the way back
to Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo. I am related (3rd cousin) to Santo Toribio
Romo Gonzalez through my Gutierrez line.

I am interested in the “Martin” because my wife’s father, Jose de Jesus
Martinez Villalpando was from Cañadas. His father was Eugenio Martin
Valadez, hijo de Atanacio Martin. Do you have any of them in any of your
charts? I hit a brick wall with Atanacio Martin and haven’t been able to go
beyond him.

I had my Y-DNA analyzed by GeneTree. I belong to Group: E M96 Subgoup
E1b1b1-M35 which is the third largest in Europe. This group originated in
Northern Africa, spread to the Middle East and back to Southern Europe all
the way back to Spain and Portugal. Later this same group crossed from
Northwestern Africa through Gibraltar into Spain. They were Berbers.
My mt-DNA is Group A-2, Native American.

I am very interested in seeing your results, we might be related! I tried
to join the Gary Felix group, but they only accept people who have their DNA
analyzed by them.

Thanks.

PS: Are you in the Los Angeles area?

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

—– Original Message —–
From: “El Peregrino”
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:04
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results

>
> John, are you related to either the Casillas or Martin clans ? We are on
> my fathers side, who is also Gonzalez, from Tepatitlan, more specifically
> San Jose de Bazarte. Looking at my father’s chart, I count at least 4
> times that the Gonzalez line married with the Casillas and one Martin
> ancestor, Sostenes Martin. I recently joined Gary’s (Felix) group and am
> waiting on my results, on both my Y and mtDNA. It’s very exciting to be
> able to trace your ancestory back so far ! Robert Gonzalez ~

Posted : 13/03/2009 5:15 am

Pat Silva Corbera

(@pat-silva-corbera)

Posts: 488

John,

You and my husband are then cousins, sharing the same Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida as your common ancestors. This is my husband’s maternal grandfather Fernando Perez’ line. Of which non of the male members of his gene pool have been YDNA tested.

beside Ana Gonzalez, the only other child I have for Juan and Ana is Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Pedro Navarro-Gaitan. I do not have Melchor Gonzalez de Hermosillo listed.

I’ll check out your DNA results on GeneTree tomorrow, as well as the two Gonzalez individuals that you noted that are on Gary Felix’ Database.

Thank you!
Pat and Tino Corbera
Tracy CA USA

—– Original Message —–
From: “John Gonzalez”
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:06:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo Ancestry

Hi Pat:

I have my DNA results posted with GeneTree.

I hope this helps.

John Gonzalez.

—– Original Message —–
From: “Pat Corbera”
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 13:17
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo
Ancestry

Posted : 13/03/2009 7:30 am

Anonymous

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New Member Guest

Hello Pat,
I have ten children for Juan gonzalez de Hermosillo and ana gonzalez florida.
Melchor was born about 1616 and died 20/feb/1684
Ricci

________________________________

From: announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of Pat Corbera
Sent: Fri 3/13/2009 12:19 AM
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo Ancestry

John,

beside Ana Gonzalez, the only other child I have for Juan and Ana is Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Pedro Navarro-Gaitan. I do not have Melchor Gonzalez de Hermosillo listed.

I’ll check out your DNA results on GeneTree tomorrow, as well as the two Gonzalez individuals that you noted that are on Gary Felix’ Database.

Thank you!
Pat and Tino Corbera
Tracy CA USA

Hi Pat:

I have my DNA results posted with GeneTree.

I hope this helps.

John Gonzalez.

—– Original Message —–
From: “Pat Corbera”
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 13:17
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo
Ancestry

Posted : 13/03/2009 4:00 pm

gnzlzspd

(@gnzlzspd)

Posts: 275

Pat and Tino Corbera

I am wondering if we are talking about the same couple. Could you please
check your records for the following dates?

Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II. Born 1591 in Jalostotitlán. Died 6 Jan
1666.
Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Born 1594 in Jalostotitlán. Married in 1614 in
Jalostotitlán..

This is the couple from whom I descend.

I do have a Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo, but she is married to Capt.
Joseph Muñoz de La Barba. Her parents were:
Diego Alonzo Ramirez de Hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava.

John Gonzalez

======================================================================================

> John,
>
> You and my husband are then cousins, sharing the same Juan Gonzalez de
> Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida as your common ancestors. This is my
> husband’s maternal grandfather Fernando Perez’ line. Of which non of the
> male members of his gene pool have been YDNA tested.
>
> beside Ana Gonzalez, the only other child I have for Juan and Ana is
> Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to Pedro Navarro-Gaitan. I do not
> have Melchor Gonzalez de Hermosillo listed.

Posted : 13/03/2009 6:15 pm

Anonymous

(@Anonymous)

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New Member Guest

Did Diego Alonso Ramirez de hermosillo go by Alonso Munoz de Hermosillo in any records?

I have an Andres Munoz de Hermosillo son of Alonso Munos de hermosillo and Luisa de Nava that I am researching.
Rick

________________________________

From: announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of John Gonzalez
Sent: Fri 3/13/2009 11:02 AM
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo Ancestry

Hi:

Pat and Tino Corbera

I am wondering if we are talking about the same couple. Could you please
check your records for the following dates?

Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II. Born 1591 in Jalostotitlán. Died 6 Jan
1666.
Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Born 1594 in Jalostotitlán. Married in 1614 in
Jalostotitlán..

This is the couple from whom I descend.

I do have a Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo, but she is married to Capt.
Joseph Muñoz de La Barba. Her parents were:
Diego Alonzo Ramirez de Hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava.

John Gonzalez

======================================================================================

Posted : 13/03/2009 7:45 pm

Pat Silva Corbera

(@pat-silva-corbera)

Posts: 488

Hi John,

Yes, that’s what I have for Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and for Ana Gonzalez Florida. By rechecking the IGI Batch #F868245, I realized that I had not added Juan’s parents – Another by the name of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and his wife Maria Munoz.

Catarina Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo born abt 1637 Parents: Juan Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida- Spouse: Pedro Navarro-Gaitan: Source: LDS IGI Batch #F868514 Sheet: 046 Source Call No.: 1386287 Type: Film.
Pedro Navarro-Gaitan b. abt 1637 Death: 1687 Parents: Pedro Navarro Gaitan and Maria Cabrera – Spouse: Catarina Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo. Same LDS IGI source as noted above for Catarina.

John, what is your source for Catarina Gonzalaez de Hermosillo married to Joseph Munoz de La Barba?

Pat
—– Original Message —–
From: “John Gonzalez”
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:02:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo Ancestry

Hi:

Pat and Tino Corbera

I am wondering if we are talking about the same couple. Could you please
check your records for the following dates?

Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II. Born 1591 in Jalostotitlán. Died 6 Jan
1666.
Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Born 1594 in Jalostotitlán. Married in 1614 in
Jalostotitlán..

This is the couple from whom I descend.

I do have a Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo, but she is married to Capt.
Joseph Muñoz de La Barba. Her parents were:
Diego Alonzo Ramirez de Hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava.

John Gonzalez

======================================================================================

Posted : 13/03/2009 9:30 pm

Pat Silva Corbera

(@pat-silva-corbera)

Posts: 488

Hi Ricci,

Gosh, I need to come up with at least another 8 children…I’m off to the LDS FamilySearch site… ;-).

Thank you,
Pat Silva Corbera
—– Original Message —–
From: “Richard Ricci”
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:52:27 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo Ancestry

Hello Pat,
I have ten children for Juan gonzalez de Hermosillo and ana gonzalez florida.
Melchor was born about 1616 and died 20/feb/1684
Ricci

Posted : 13/03/2009 10:00 pm

gnzlzspd

(@gnzlzspd)

Posts: 275

Hi Pat:

Sorry it’s taken me so long to answer your question about the source for
Catarina Gonzalez and Jose Munoz de La Barba

Jose Muñoz de La Barba: Batch 8676809, Source call #1396252
Marriage to Catarina Gonzalez: Batch M602486 Dates 1637-1669 Film #0639754

John Gonzalez

=========================================================================================================================================

—– Original Message —–
From: “Pat Corbera”
To:
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 14:26
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo
Ancestry

> Hi John,
>
> Yes, that’s what I have for Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and for Ana
> Gonzalez Florida. By rechecking the IGI Batch #F868245, I realized that I
> had not added Juan’s parents – Another by the name of Juan Gonzalez de
> Hermosillo and his wife Maria Munoz.
>
> Catarina Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo born abt 1637 Parents: Juan
> Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida- Spouse: Pedro
> Navarro-Gaitan: Source: LDS IGI Batch #F868514 Sheet: 046 Source Call No.:
> 1386287 Type: Film.
> Pedro Navarro-Gaitan b. abt 1637 Death: 1687 Parents: Pedro Navarro Gaitan
> and Maria Cabrera – Spouse: Catarina Gonzalez-De-Hermosillo. Same LDS IGI
> source as noted above for Catarina.
>
> John, what is your source for Catarina Gonzalaez de Hermosillo married to
> Joseph Munoz de La Barba?
>
> Pat
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “John Gonzalez”
> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:02:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA test results/Gonzalez de Hermosillo
> Ancestry
>
> Hi:
>
> Pat and Tino Corbera
>
> I am wondering if we are talking about the same couple. Could you please
> check your records for the following dates?
>
> Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo II. Born 1591 in Jalostotitlán. Died 6 Jan
> 1666.
> Ana Gonzalez Florida II. Born 1594 in Jalostotitlán. Married in 1614 in
> Jalostotitlán..
>
> This is the couple from whom I descend.
>
> I do have a Catarina Gonzalez de Hermosillo, but she is married to Capt.
> Joseph Muñoz de La Barba. Her parents were:
> Diego Alonzo Ramirez de Hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava.
>
>
> John Gonzalez

Posted : 14/03/2009 10:15 pm

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