Hello Jaime and Bill–
The Gómez de Espejo did originate in Jalisco, more specifically Ayo El Chico, Ocotlán and Tepatitlán and surrounding areas, They were seated in Ayo El Chico to begin with. All the Juana Gómez de Espejo, Bill had listed are grandchildren and descendants of Juana I Gómez de Espejo “La Mayor” her surname was very popoular with her descendants, several adopted it. Ive researched Ayo and some of the main families were Gómez de Espejo, Camarena, Ruiz de Velasco and Hernández Gamiño these married extensiveley before going to the north in main Los Altos area i.e. Jalos etc. This is very interesting I like Bill have never seen a Gómez de Espejo this early in Aguas, they must have come from Ayo or aroundto Aguas. The Diego Gómez de Espejo–Bill had mentioned, was son of Domingo Hernández y Gamiño and Juana Gómez de Espejo, Diego had adopted his maternal surname, which is something huge, Ive usually seen mostly women take maternal names unless the son if named after the maternal grandfather etc. The Espejo family is very interesting when marrying with the Velasco and Gamiños. Most of the time all the daughters would adopt Espejo while then sons adopted there father whether being Velasco or Gamiño. These 3 families were very close-knitted, often many 1st cousins married. And Mencia Ruiz de Velasco daughter of Pedro Ruiz de Velasco and Ana Núñez who came from México City to Ayo El Chico, Ive estimated between 1619-1625 or so when they left DF. I did find Pedro II Ruiz de Velasco baptism in Mexico City the main patriarch of Velascos Alteño.

-Daniel Camino
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Thanks Daniel for the very interesting info. It would be great if we could establish the connection.

Jaime

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ana Dominguez de Inojos

Hello Jaime and Bill–
The Gómez de Espejo did originate in Jalisco, more specifically Ayo El Chico, Ocotlán and Tepatitlán and surrounding areas, They were seated in Ayo El Chico to begin with. All the Juana Gómez de Espejo, Bill had listed are grandchildren and descendants of Juana I Gómez de Espejo “La Mayor” her surname was very popoular with her descendants, several adopted it. Ive researched Ayo and some of the main families were Gómez de Espejo, Camarena, Ruiz de Velasco and Hernández Gamiño these married extensiveley before going to the north in main Los Altos area i.e. Jalos etc. This is very interesting I like Bill have never seen a Gómez de Espejo this early in Aguas, they must have come from Ayo or aroundto Aguas. The Diego Gómez de Espejo–Bill had mentioned, was son of Domingo Hernández y Gamiño and Juana Gómez de Espejo, Diego had adopted his maternal surname, which is something huge, Ive usually seen mostly women take maternal names unless the son if named after the maternal grandfather etc. The Espejo family is very interesting when marrying with the Velasco and Gamiños. Most of the time all the daughters would adopt Espejo while then sons adopted there father whether being Velasco or Gamiño. These 3 families were very close-knitted, often many 1st cousins married. And Mencia Ruiz de Velasco daughter of Pedro Ruiz de Velasco and Ana Núñez who came from México City to Ayo El Chico, Ive estimated between 1619-1625 or so when they left DF. I did find Pedro II Ruiz de Velasco baptism in Mexico City the main patriarch of Velascos Alteño.

-Daniel Camino
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Hi Lester,

Thanks for the info. I also searched for “Espejo” in Aguas and found the
same 20 records. However, they’re from 19th century (1826-1879) and the
person we are looking for was married some 200 years earlier, in 1683. I
have been through some 50 films with records from Aguascalientes in the last
five years, and never before encountered that surname.

Bill

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From: “Lester Alvarado”
To: “Bill Figueroa”
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Espejo as a last name – Bill and Jaime

Hiya Bill and Jaime ,

I thought this might be of interest to the two of you. In Family Search I
just put the last name Espejo and the state of Aguascalientes and these
names showed up.

Welester G. Alvarado

International Genealogical Index / Mexico – 20 (…)

Hello Daniel,

Thanks for the info. Maybe we can find the direct link between Juan
Hernandez (who married Ana Alonso de los Inojos aka Ana Dominguez) and the
Gomez de Espejo of los Altos de Jalisco.

Bill

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Hello Jaime and Bill–

The Gómez de Espejo did originate in Jalisco, more specifically Ayo El
Chico, Ocotlán, Tepatitlán and surrounding areas…etc.

-Daniel Camino

Tengo estas páginas a ver si alguien le sirven, la primera tieme primeros pobladores deMéxico por estado ( no todos) y algunas haciendas y la segunda te contacta con apellidos italianos que inmigraron a América:
http://mx.geocities.com/genealogiademexico/menu/003primepob.html y www.apellidositalianos.com.ar saludos Leticia Reynoso
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Hi Leticia, this site is a good source of info! I found a Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, could this be the father of the famous Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza married to Toribio Hernández de Arellano? The time and place are really exact. I found it in the first Guadalajara section or Nochistlán. -Daniel Camino
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Daniel:
Good for you! maybe all of us have many branches where we don’t Know the second name or husband of someone, or we have pedro Peres in Jalisco but the same arrived before in Oaxaca.. that can be useful,in a small source you have onother clues. I found today that Maria Zamora wife of Fernando De la Mora y Hurtado de Mendoza was Zamora y Solis.. excuse my english Leticia reynoso> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:04:09 -0800> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] sitio interesante> > > Hi Leticia, this site is a good source of info! I found a Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, could this be the father of the famous Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza married to Toribio Hernández de Arellano? The time and place are really exact. I found it in the first Guadalajara section or Nochistlán. -Daniel Camino> _________________________________________________________________> Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_112008> — — — — — — — — — — — — –> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Hi Leticia, I have worked on the Zamora line of Zamora, Michoacán! How far have you gotten, Ive done some work on it. -Daniel
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Hi Daniel ,
I have two Maria Zamora’s in my tree, in fact the onlys Zamora’s I have, one in Ocotlan or Tepatitlan Jalisco vers 1655 married with Fernando de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza parents of Juan de la Mora Hurtado de Mendoza married with Leonor Hermosillo, and the other one married also in Ocotlan with Alonso Romero de Chaves parents of Nicolas Romero de Chaves at same dates I don´t Know if is the same person..thanks Leticia Reynoso
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Hola Rafa, que tal tu fin?
Yo fui con mi hermana y mi sobrinita a Ixtapan de la Sal desayunamos en el Marriot (antes era del Rey, te acuerdas que cuando trabajé en el casino ese nos llevaron a la apertura, me acordé que esa noche yo estaba atendiendo al diputado Felipe Calderón hoy Presidente, quien lo diría no?) el hotel sigue igual, luego pasamos al spa unos masajitos ricos, tina romana con agua apestosa a azufre, y de regreso pasamos a comer a Texcaltitlan, hay un restaurante con un lago y puedes pescar, no pesqué nada, comimos y llegamos a Tejupilco como a las 7:30.
Necesito saber si me vas a poder ver el miercoles.
Porfa avisame.
Te mando un abrazo grande.Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez
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R.A.Ricci
The Hernandez-Gamno family first settled in Aguascalientes. Domingo Hernandez-Gamino and Juana Gomez del Espejo had a few children born there. They moved to Leon where some of their children were married. They spread to Ayo el Chico and Arandas, with branches later extending to Jalostotitlan and San Miguel el Alto.
Brothers Juan and Blas Hernandez-Gamino married two Dominguez sisters.
Juan married Ana and they had a daughter named Juana who married Juan Macias-Valadez

Blas married Luisa on 19/jul/1654 in Aguascalientes, and had a daughter also named Luisa who married Niclas de los Santos y Bustos on 12/jun/1696 also in aguascalientes
Blas was also known as Blas Gomez Espejo

My wife and I both descend from the hernandez-Dominguez lines.
Feel free to ask me for more information. Steve hernandez wrote a very good article documenting his lines of the family. The work is incomplete as it focuses more on his personal lines but it is a good starting point for your research on the Hernandez-Gamino famiy and I highly recommend it.

I have long suspected that Toribio Hernandez de arellano was a member of the ramirez de arellano line. There are many!!! other reasons to agree with this line!!! I spent a lot of time and effort working fruitlessly when the answer was right under my nose. When working on his tree I made the simple mistake of not remembering that hernandez and fernandez are interchangeable in this period of time.I have done much work on the fernandez de hijar line without even thinking to connect it with toribio Hernandez .I would have come to this same conclusion a long time ago if I had only opened my eyes.
I am a little confused about isabel mendoza parents. I have not spent any time or effort working on this line because I had believed that her father was inigo Hurtado de mendoza? I did not know that there was a questiion about her parents.

R.A.Ricci

.A.Ricci

Can you clarify who were the parents of Juan and Blas Hernandez-Gamino? Were they Domingo and Juana?

Jaime

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] hernandez-gamono & Dominguez Connection

R.A.Ricci
The Hernandez-Gamno family first settled in Aguascalientes. Domingo Hernandez-Gamino and Juana Gomez del Espejo had a few children born there. They moved to Leon where some of their children were married. They spread to Ayo el Chico and Arandas, with branches later extending to Jalostotitlan and San Miguel el Alto.
Brothers Juan and Blas Hernandez-Gamino married two Dominguez sisters.
Juan married Ana and they had a daughter named Juana who married Juan Macias-Valadez

Blas married Luisa on 19/jul/1654 in Aguascalientes, and had a daughter also named Luisa who married Niclas de los Santos y Bustos on 12/jun/1696 also in aguascalientes
Blas was also known as Blas Gomez Espejo

My wife and I both descend from the hernandez-Dominguez lines.
Feel free to ask me for more information. Steve hernandez wrote a very good article documenting his lines of the family. The work is incomplete as it focuses more on his personal lines but it is a good starting point for your research on the Hernandez-Gamino famiy and I highly recommend it.

You are correct, I also have this suspicion about Toribio, he is obviously related to the Ramirez Arellano, Toribio was said to be a distant relative of Tristan
de Luna y Arellano. If my guess is correct, Toribio should be son of Juan Fernandez de Hijar and Catalina Ramirez de Arellano. Not sure why he would combine his parents last name if this is correct? Which Inigo Mendoza are you talking about? -Daniel Camino
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Domingo Hernandez-Gamino and Juana Gomez del Espejo are the parents of Juan and Blas. Juan Hernandez Gamino used his father’s last name more often but his brother interchangeably used Hernandez Gamino and GHomez de Espejo as his last name.I have more dates and info on parents and siblings if you want it.

R.A.Ricci