I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father’s, mother’s,
maternal uncle’s, my mother’s maternal uncles, my father’s maternal aunt’s,
and my husband’s, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents’ each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother’s and maternal uncle’s results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents’. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn’t already seen my grandaunt’s 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent’s. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don’t know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

I just got my results back from ancestry.com, and found 4 connections right away, three from my hispanic side and one from my anglo side. The anglo side connection proved a great find because I was still a little iffy on the family connection being the right one.

The hispanic connections took a little work to find the generation but the results came back with many last name searches in common.

What you get from ancestry is a very general breakdown of your DNA results Southern European x%, Central European x% and then a very generic description of each Ethnic
breakdown that outlines

Modern Day Location

About Your Region (bascic history)

Migrations into this region

Migrations from this region

Plus a list of possible family matches
The good thing is when you check out the possible matches they do include direct surname matches in both trees as well as a way to compare locations of where families were born.
They also update the possible matches as people’s results come in.

Raquel,

Your posting was more than helpful, thank you so much…now all I need to do is to decided if I want to have my husband’s autosomal tested first, or mine.

I also monitor many family accounts with FTDNA.com:

myself (HVR1 &HVR2)

my nephew (on my paternal YDNA line)

4 cousins (on my maternal paternal ancestry, who also shares common direct line ancestry with my paternal direct line ancestor…my parents were first cousins once removed, sharing a male direct line common ancestor.)

and then there is my Mexican husband’s paternal and maternal lines…(his paternal 67marker confirmed as Q1a3a and his mtDNA Haplogroup A, both HVR1 & HVR2).

We also had our grandson’s YDNA 37 marker tested, but not his mtDNA, since it would be the same as mine and his (mother my biological offspring)…

Now it’s time to see if family on my side would be interested in having their autosomal tested…

I’m pretty sure before I do that, I will order the autosomal test for my husband…

Once again Thank you so much for taking the time in replying to my posting…
Your posting was very helpful…

Sincerely,
Patricia J Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

—– Original Message —–
From: “Raquel Ruiz”
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father’s, mother’s,
maternal uncle’s, my mother’s maternal uncles, my father’s maternal aunt’s,
and my husband’s, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents’ each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother’s and maternal uncle’s results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents’. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn’t already seen my grandaunt’s 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent’s. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don’t know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

Raquel,

Your posting was more than helpful, thank you so much…now all I need to do is to decided if I want to have my husband’s autosomal tested first, or mine.

I also monitor many family accounts with FTDNA.com:

myself (HVR1 &HVR2)

my nephew (on my paternal YDNA line)

4 cousins (on my maternal paternal ancestry, who also shares common direct line ancestry with my paternal direct line ancestor…my parents were first cousins once removed, sharing a male direct line common ancestor.)

and then there is my Mexican husband’s paternal and maternal lines…(his paternal 67marker confirmed as Q1a3a and his mtDNA Haplogroup A, both HVR1 & HVR2).

We also had our grandson’s YDNA 37 marker tested, but not his mtDNA, since it would be the same as mine and his (mother my biological offspring)…

Now it’s time to see if family on my side would be interested in having their autosomal tested…

I’m pretty sure before I do that, I will order the autosomal test for my husband…

Once again Thank you so much for taking the time in replying to my posting…
Your posting was very helpful…

Sincerely,
Patricia J Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

—– Original Message —–
From: “Raquel Ruiz”
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father’s, mother’s,
maternal uncle’s, my mother’s maternal uncles, my father’s maternal aunt’s,
and my husband’s, all with family finder testing. Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors. But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes. It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive. Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents’ each of us have some unique to us. I have made a few
connections with some of my matches. I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother’s and maternal uncle’s results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest. I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected. I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents’. Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly. The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn’t already seen my grandaunt’s 4%. My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent’s. Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don’t know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions. I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

Thank you, for your input on autosomal testing…I have decided to use FTDNA for testing my husband’s hispanic lineage first…

I will share the results when they come in, hopefully by the end of Nov or first of Dec…

I will also check out ancestry.com’s DNA testing options….

Sincerely,
Pat Silva Corbea
Tracy CA
Researching: Corbera; Serrano and Salamanca (from Momax, Zacatecas)
Perez; Andrade and Aguirre from Nochistlan, Zacatecas

—– Original Message —–
From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:51:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I just got my results back from ancestry.com, and found 4 connections right away, three from my hispanic side and one from my anglo side. The anglo side connection proved a great find because I was still a little iffy on the family connection being the right one.

The hispanic connections took a little work to find the generation but the results came back with many last name searches in common.

What you get from ancestry is a very general breakdown of your DNA results Southern European x%, Central European x% and then a very generic description of each Ethnic
breakdown that outlines

Modern Day Location

About Your Region (bascic history)

Migrations into this region

Migrations from this region

Plus a list of possible family matches
The good thing is when you check out the possible matches they do include direct surname matches in both trees as well as a way to compare locations of where families were born.
They also update the possible matches as people’s results come in.

Pat,

I noticed your research surnames, specifically Serrano. Do you happen to have Prudencia Rita Serrano in your tree? Good luck, with your autosomal testing.

My mother’s maternal uncle’s haplogroup is Q1a3a2, but so far he has no
matches. Does your husband have any matches? This is the other end of the
spectrum from my dad’s R1b1a2a1a1a haplogroup, (Jalisco line) .and his
1000+ matches.
Raquel Ruiz
Massachusetts

I have a Manuel de Aguirre, md 2 Feb 1738 in Nochistlan to Ana Gertrudis
Jimenez. His parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Maria de la
Rosa. Any connection? Manuel and Ana Gertrudis are my 5ggpts.

Raquel Ruiz

>
>

Raquel,
It’s great that you’ve been tested.  I’ve decided to use FTDNA, but still not sure which of the many products offered are a good fit for me. 
When you say that you’ve made a few connections with some of your matches, what are you referring to?  Are the matches names of people you didn’t know you were related to?
Are they living or in the past, or both? 
These are matches made possible because these family members were also tested, correct?  If no matches were found, how would you be able to use the info you received?
Thanks so much for your sharing,   Alice
— On Mon, 9/24/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 10:22 PM

I monitor 7 family accounts with ftdna.com: mine, my father’s, mother’s,
maternal uncle’s, my mother’s maternal uncles, my father’s maternal aunt’s,
and my husband’s, all with family finder testing.  Some of my urgency to
test was based on the ages of the dna donors.   But I was also just plain
curious, as well s being hopeful that they will eventually be helpful for
genealogical purposes.  It is helpful to have others tested on both sides
of the family, to assist in figuring out from which side the matches
probably derive.  Although there is tremendous overlap of my matches with
my parents’ each of us have some unique to us.  I have made a few
connections with some of my matches.  I hope to make an organized effort to
utilize the information after I retire in a few years.

As one would expect, my mother’s and maternal uncle’s results are very
similar, but then again, with some variation in their match results, which
will give me a wider selection to work with once I begin in earnest.  I was
quite surprised to find my population finder results were very different
than I had expected.  I naively thought they would be about the average of
my parents’.  Only my Native American percentage came out as predicted
(33%), while my other results varied significantly.  The 3 % East Asian
would have really thrown me if I hadn’t already seen my grandaunt’s 4%.  My
population finder results actually look much more similar to hers than to
my parent’s.  Probably quite coincidentally, my looks strongly favor that
family line.

I don’t know if this is helpful, but feel free to ask me any other
questions.  I only order tests when there is some kind of sale going on.
Raquel Ruiz

Raquel,

I see no connection with the individuals that you mentioned.

Here is the locations that I am researching:

Rancho de Los Pintos Parroquia de Momax, Zacatecas
Rancho de La Jabonera, Nochistlan, Zacatecas
Santa Maria Mecatabasco, (Villa Del Refugio) Zacatecas
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas
Senor San Jose (Plateado), Zacatecas
Colotlan, Jalisco

Surnames Researching

Corbera/Corvera/Serrano/Salamanca/Gonzalez/Mora/Mota/Robles/
Batista/Bautista/Salcedo/
Perez/Aguirre/Andrade/Delgadillo/Lopez/Contreras/Plasencia/

I have submitted a GEDCOM file to NR that can be viewed, that contains a listing of the individuals that I am researching.

YDNA – Florentino (aka Tino) Corbera) Haplogroup Q1a3a – M3+
mtDNA – Haplogroup A…

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA

—– Original Message —–
From: “Raquel Ruiz”
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:03:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing

I have a Manuel de Aguirre, md 2 Feb 1738 in Nochistlan to Ana Gertrudis
Jimenez. His parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Maria de la
Rosa. Any connection? Manuel and Ana Gertrudis are my 5ggpts.

Raquel Ruiz

>
>

Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
family finder matches yet–it on my “to do” list for retirement. I’ve
identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
my list of ancestor’s siblings. I’ve had some contact from matches not in
my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
She is the only match for my father’s Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
calling each other “cousin”.
Raquel Ruiz

Hello Raquel,
How interesting!  As you can see, I don’t have a vast knowledge of DNA analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further personal genealogical research.  I suppose I’m overly cautious because of the costs involved.  So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related.  At that point I imagine one would exchange genealogical information.  That can certainly makes this a very small but exiciting world.
Again, thank you so much,    Alice 

— On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:

From: Raquel Ruiz
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM

Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
family finder matches yet–it on my “to do” list for retirement.  I’ve
identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
my list of ancestor’s siblings.  I’ve had some contact from matches not in
my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet.  That may
come in the future.  I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
She is the only match for my father’s Haplogroup C.  But we still enjoy
calling each other “cousin”.
Raquel Ruiz

Hi,

I’ve also used FamilyTreeDNA’s family finder. I had my mother tested as
well so we are both in their system.

I’ve shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I’ll share here as
well.

I’m 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
matches.

The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre’s from Nochistlan. My paternal
grandfather’s maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
Nicolas’s parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel’s tree????

Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.

I still have some contacts from the Aguirre’s from Nochistlan and one day
hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Raquel,
> How interesting! As you can see, I don’t have a vast knowledge of DNA
> analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> personal genealogical research. I suppose I’m overly cautious because of
> the costs involved. So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not
> necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related. At that point I
> imagine one would exchange genealogical information. That can certainly
> makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> Again, thank you so much, Alice
>
> — On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
>
>
> From: Raquel Ruiz
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
>
>
> Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> family finder matches yet–it on my “to do” list for retirement. I’ve
> identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
> my list of ancestor’s siblings. I’ve had some contact from matches not in
> my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet. That may
> come in the future. I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
> FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> She is the only match for my father’s Haplogroup C. But we still enjoy
> calling each other “cousin”.
> Raquel Ruiz

Hello Juan,
Which Family Tree products did you use?
Thanks,  Alice

— On Thu, 9/27/12, Juan Aguayo wrote:

From: Juan Aguayo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:04 PM

Hi,

I’ve also used FamilyTreeDNA’s family finder. I had my mother tested as
well so we are both in their system.

I’ve shared my info with my prima Alicia Carrillo, but I’ll share here as
well.

I’m 33% Native Mexican, 55% European, and 12% North African. The family
finder gave me a list of about 40 distant relatives with strands of DNA
matches.

The more interesting part of this email chain is that I have a hunch that
Raquel and I are related via the Aguirre’s from Nochistlan. My paternal
grandfather’s maternal side of the family is Aguirre. I have Nicolas
Aguirre Yanes married to Maria Felipa Contreas Gonsales on May 20, 1740.
Nicolas’s parents are listed as Antonio de Aguirre and Francisca Yanes. I
wonder if this is the same Antonio Aguirre in Raquel’s tree????

Nicolas and Maria Felipa are my 5ggpts.

I still have some contacts from the Aguirre’s from Nochistlan and one day
hope to get a y-DNA test on these Aguirres.

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Alice Blake wrote:

> Hello Raquel,
> How interesting!  As you can see, I don’t have a vast knowledge of DNA
> analysis as to what can be learned and what is usable to further
> personal genealogical research.  I suppose I’m overly cautious because of
> the costs involved.  So you are given matches based on common DNA, but not
> necesarily the ancestor through whom you are related.  At that point I
> imagine one would exchange genealogical information.  That can certainly
> makes this a very small but exiciting world.
> Again, thank you so much,    Alice
>
> — On Wed, 9/26/12, Raquel Ruiz wrote:
>
>
> From: Raquel Ruiz
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Autosomal Testing
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
>
>
> Alice, As I indicated, I have not put any concerted effort in using the
> family finder matches yet–it on my “to do” list for retirement.  I’ve
> identified a few matches with people from fellow NR members, which expanded
> my list of ancestor’s siblings.  I’ve had some contact from matches not in
> my Jalisco line, but either they or I have not collected enough
> genealogical information to identify our shared ancestor yet.  That may
> come in the future.  I and an HRV2 but not Full Sequence match did use the
> FF to confirm that we will not be able to identify our shared ancestor.
> She is the only match for my father’s Haplogroup C.  But we still enjoy
> calling each other “cousin”.
> Raquel Ruiz