Bancroft's Inquisition documents

MariaCortez · 2007-04-30T03:45:17Z

Hello Charles and welcome to the group. Regarding the inquisition documents held at Bancroft; I have viewed part of the film that contains the petitions by Capitan Nicolas Flores de la Torre (dated 27 Jul 1694) and Melchor Perez de la Torre. I got Hello Charles and welcome to the group. Regarding the inquisition documents held at Bancroft; I have viewed part of the film that contains the petitions by Capitan Nicolas Flores de la Torre (dated 27 Jul 1694) and Melchor Perez de la Torre. I got through the entire petition by Nicolas, but only got through part of Melchor's petition because of time constraints. Anyway, the gist of it is Nicolas Flores de la Torre is requesting "dos Reales Cedulas" for the encomienda de Juchipila. He testifies how, as the the direct male line descendant of el Capitan Diego Flores de la Torre Altamirano, he is the rightful heir to the encomienda. His petition is backed by the testimonies, regarding his noble lineage, by witnesses: Geronimo de Moscoso y Sandobal, Mathias Mejia and Matheo de Robalcava. The witnesses state that Nicolas is the 2nd great-grandson of el Señor Licenciado de la Torre, second Governor of Nueva Galicia. Melchor's petition was dated 13 Aug 1671. I know there are some older documents preceding Melchor's petition, but I was unable to get that far in the film. This film is of great interest to me because I have a Flores de la Torre line that ties into this family (Maria Bacilia Flores de la Torre b. abt 1740 in Guadalajara, daughter of Nicolas Flores de la Torre and Maria Munoz de la Barba). Another item to note is that the parents of Nicolas were Pedro Flores de la Torre and Clara de Miramontes. I know there are a few people researching the Miramontes family in the group. The film is not an easy read and a few frames are nearly illegible. If you don't have the patience to go through the microfilm (Bancroft won't allow you to handle the originals) you can find the contents extracted in the book "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia" by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. I cannot give an opinion as to the accuracy or completeness of Mr. Garmendia Leal's extraction since I have not gone through the entire film, but it is certainly a much easier read than the film. Good luck on your trip to Bancroft and if you'd like to join us at one of our Northern California meetings please contact me or Alicia directly. Maria Cortez > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:10:15 EDT > From: User176613@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hello to all > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you, Alicia. I am sort of new to genealogy. I have done a lot of > snooping around on the internet with google searches and such. I plan on taking > a trip to UCBerkeley in three weeks. They purchased Mexico's documents from > the Mexican Inquisition. There are over sixty different docs. There is one > on the Flores de la Torre family's genealogy from the the town of Juchipila. > It was requested by two Flores de la Torre family members. I wonder if > there was something bad that came of it Because I have discovered the Flores > family descended from conversos from Sevilla ( sometime around siglo XIV or > siglo XV). > It was considered an incredible acquisition for the Bancroft Library. I > cant wait to learn more. > thanks again, > Charles Flores >

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To my “privileged” Prima Josie,

Received your Swiss choc hug, will be there another couple of weeks – or so. Well, exxxcccussseeemmme!

I, too, am frustrated with this equally elusive couple that I know for a fact were in Revilla in 1738, even though that is about 9 or 10 years before the villa was “founded” in 1750. I wish i knew where they came from, as they did not come with Vicente Guerra.

Please, please, continue to have fun!!!

Prima Juanita

“Josie T. Trevino” wrote:
Hi!

Juanita, I am still in Switzerland…..just returned from Italy yesterday
and will be here another couple of weeks or so. When I get back home to San
Antonio I will check what I have for Revilla. I am anxious to get back to
my research…..You and I will definitely get together when I return, ok?
As far as my Zacatecas research goes…..I am STILL looking for my elusive
Juan Antonio Liendo and his wife Catalina de la Rosa…..I am also desperate
with this couple! A “Swiss Chocolate hug” to all my Nuestros Ranchos
amigos!

Josie from San Antonio (TX)

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Charles,

Many thanks for your prompt reply! Will just have to perservere.

Of all the people that communicate via the ranchos site I have only met
one person (Josie)
that had connections with the people that came with the De Escandon
colonizer, and we matched! There are many people looking for missing kin
that moved West, California, New Mexico, etc., but almost none for people
that came to NE MEXICO.

I am looking for the parents of JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO Y LUNA, born in
REVILLA, TAMPS,. in 1738, which was long before REVILLA was “founded” in
1750. He died there also, in 1798. I have all the censuses from Revilla up
to 1881, but they are not in any of them. I found JOSEPH MARIA, in his older
age, and I found record of his death in the
Corpus Christ, Texas, reseach library, but not his parents.

I am really desperate! Thanks for listening.

Juanita

Posted : 02/05/2007 6:00 pm