The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temi
hello,
esther, you are correct in that the book does not list the parents of DIEGO de TREVINO, or FRANCISCA
ALCOZER, but I have them in my ancestry that was printed by a member of SAGA, actually he is coordinator or something of the group.I will send what I have, several generations back from Diego, and only 1 from
FRANCISCA. I have the info at home and I am the library where I volunteer.
juanita g. delgado
eaherold@att.net wrote:
The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temiño. The first
> generation listed is Diego Temiño de Velasco (R: 1474), born at España. He
> married Fracisca de Alcozer (R: 1475) at España. Francisca, born at
> España. Then, it goes on to list five children of this couple: Francisca,
> Alonso, Baltazar, Diego and Mariana. VECINDAD: Fueron vecinos de Sevilla,
> salen con sus hijos de España el 13 Junio de 1538 hacia Cartagena, pasan por
> Mexico y llegan a Guadalajara, Jal. aprox. en 1543/44. Below that, is the
> citation to the Bancroft Library manuscript Esther cites.
>
> Maria E. Cortez
>
>
>
> > ——————————
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:28:06 +0000
> > From: eaherold@att.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Message-ID:
> > > 120920061728.9860.457AF2250005CDF80000268421602810600B04019D0A080E0A@att.net
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Marge,
> >
> > John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book on Nueva Galicia
> > p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft
> > library, “A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II
> > Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714″ p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film
> > from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another
> > book “Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala” by Francisco
> > Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
> >
> > I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino’s lineage
> > only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned
> > above.
> >
> > Esther
> > —
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” :
> > ————–
> >
> >
> > > I’m interested in seeing your information, if you don’t mind. Thanks.
> > > Marge:)
> > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> > >
> > > > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > > > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > > > information already.
> > > >
> > > > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > > > myth also. All I know that has been
> > > > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > > > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > > > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > > > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > > > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > > > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > > > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> > > >
> > > > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > > > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > > > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > > > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > > > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > > > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > > > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > —
> > > > Esther A. Herold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” : ————–
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> It’s a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> > > >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> > > >> for verification, it appears that he isn’t. I’m a descendant of Diego
> > > >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> > > >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> > > >> Aquitaine? I’d love to know. Marge 🙂
> > > >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > > >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think
> > Francisca
> > > >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > > >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > > >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > > >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > > >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > > >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> > > >>> Fernandez
> > > >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > > >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > > >>> —
> > > >>> Esther A. Herold
> > > >>>
> >
hello,
esther, you are correct in that the book does not list the parents of DIEGO de TREVINO, or FRANCISCA
ALCOZER, but I have them in my ancestry that was printed by a member of SAGA, actually he is coordinator or something of the group.I will send what I have, several generations back from Diego, and only 1 from
FRANCISCA. I have the info at home and I am the library where I volunteer.
juanita g. delgado
eaherold@att.net wrote:
The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temiño. The first
> generation listed is Diego Temiño de Velasco (R: 1474), born at España. He
> married Fracisca de Alcozer (R: 1475) at España. Francisca, born at
> España. Then, it goes on to list five children of this couple: Francisca,
> Alonso, Baltazar, Diego and Mariana. VECINDAD: Fueron vecinos de Sevilla,
> salen con sus hijos de España el 13 Junio de 1538 hacia Cartagena, pasan por
> Mexico y llegan a Guadalajara, Jal. aprox. en 1543/44. Below that, is the
> citation to the Bancroft Library manuscript Esther cites.
>
> Maria E. Cortez
>
>
>
> > ——————————
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:28:06 +0000
> > From: eaherold@att.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Message-ID:
> > > 120920061728.9860.457AF2250005CDF80000268421602810600B04019D0A080E0A@att.net
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Marge,
> >
> > John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book on Nueva Galicia
> > p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft
> > library, “A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II
> > Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714″ p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film
> > from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another
> > book “Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala” by Francisco
> > Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
> >
> > I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino’s lineage
> > only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned
> > above.
> >
> > Esther
> > —
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” :
> > ————–
> >
> >
> > > I’m interested in seeing your information, if you don’t mind. Thanks.
> > > Marge:)
> > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> > >
> > > > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > > > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > > > information already.
> > > >
> > > > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > > > myth also. All I know that has been
> > > > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > > > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > > > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > > > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > > > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > > > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > > > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> > > >
> > > > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > > > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > > > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > > > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > > > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > > > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > > > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > —
> > > > Esther A. Herold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” : ————–
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> It’s a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> > > >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> > > >> for verification, it appears that he isn’t. I’m a descendant of Diego
> > > >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> > > >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> > > >> Aquitaine? I’d love to know. Marge 🙂
> > > >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > > >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think
> > Francisca
> > > >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > > >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > > >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > > >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > > >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > > >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> > > >>> Fernandez
> > > >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > > >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > > >>> —
> > > >>> Esther A. Herold
> > > >>>
> >
HELLO,
This is what I have on DIEGO TREVINO OR DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO:
HERE GOES:
I will start from about the 6th generation from him:
SANCHO SANCHEZ VELASCO married SANCHA CARRILLO; their son was
FERNAN SANCHEZ VELASCO, who married JUANA CASTANEDA, daughter of DIEGO GOMEZ
CASTANEDA and JUANA GUZMAN. Their son was
PEDRO VELASCO, who died in 1384, he married MARIA SARMIENTO. Their son was:
JUAN VELASCO, who married MARIA SOLIER. Their sons were:
FERNANDO and PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who died in 1470. PEDRO married BEATRIZ
MANRIQUE LARA, daughter of PEDRO MANRIQUE LARA and LEONOR CASTILLA.. PEDRO
MANRIQUE LARA was born in 1381 and died in 1440. LEONOR CASTILLA’S parents were
FADRIQUE CASTILLA and LEONOR ALBURQUERQUE.
PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and BEATRIZ MANRIQUE LARA;S sons were:
PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and FRANCISCO VELASCO, who married MARIA MENDOZA.
FRANCISCO VELASCO and MARIA MENDOZA’S children were:
FRANCISCO FDZ. VELASCO and BERNARDINO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who married 1. MARIA
ENRIQUEZ SARMIENTO. Their childd was
DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO, born in SPAIN and married MARIA FRANCISCA ALCOZER, daughter of
HERNANDO BANUELOS and BEATRIZ ISABEL ALCOZER. BEATRIZ’ parents were JUAN DIAZ
ALCOZER and MARIA TELLEZ.
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
JUANITA G. DELGADO
eaherold@att.net wrote:
The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temiño. The first
> generation listed is Diego Temiño de Velasco (R: 1474), born at España. He
> married Fracisca de Alcozer (R: 1475) at España. Francisca, born at
> España. Then, it goes on to list five children of this couple: Francisca,
> Alonso, Baltazar, Diego and Mariana. VECINDAD: Fueron vecinos de Sevilla,
> salen con sus hijos de España el 13 Junio de 1538 hacia Cartagena, pasan por
> Mexico y llegan a Guadalajara, Jal. aprox. en 1543/44. Below that, is the
> citation to the Bancroft Library manuscript Esther cites.
>
> Maria E. Cortez
>
>
>
> > ——————————
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:28:06 +0000
> > From: eaherold@att.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Message-ID:
> > > 120920061728.9860.457AF2250005CDF80000268421602810600B04019D0A080E0A@att.net
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Marge,
> >
> > John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book on Nueva Galicia
> > p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft
> > library, “A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II
> > Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714″ p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film
> > from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another
> > book “Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala” by Francisco
> > Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
> >
> > I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino’s lineage
> > only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned
> > above.
> >
> > Esther
> > —
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” :
> > ————–
> >
> >
> > > I’m interested in seeing your information, if you don’t mind. Thanks.
> > > Marge:)
> > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> > >
> > > > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > > > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > > > information already.
> > > >
> > > > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > > > myth also. All I know that has been
> > > > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > > > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > > > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > > > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > > > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > > > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > > > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> > > >
> > > > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > > > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > > > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > > > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > > > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > > > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > > > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > —
> > > > Esther A. Herold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” : ————–
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> It’s a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> > > >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> > > >> for verification, it appears that he isn’t. I’m a descendant of Diego
> > > >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> > > >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> > > >> Aquitaine? I’d love to know. Marge 🙂
> > > >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > > >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think
> > Francisca
> > > >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > > >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > > >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > > >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > > >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > > >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> > > >>> Fernandez
> > > >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > > >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > > >>> —
> > > >>> Esther A. Herold
> > > >>>
> >
HELLO,
This is what I have on DIEGO TREVINO OR DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO:
HERE GOES:
I will start from about the 6th generation from him:
SANCHO SANCHEZ VELASCO married SANCHA CARRILLO; their son was
FERNAN SANCHEZ VELASCO, who married JUANA CASTANEDA, daughter of DIEGO GOMEZ
CASTANEDA and JUANA GUZMAN. Their son was
PEDRO VELASCO, who died in 1384, he married MARIA SARMIENTO. Their son was:
JUAN VELASCO, who married MARIA SOLIER. Their sons were:
FERNANDO and PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who died in 1470. PEDRO married BEATRIZ
MANRIQUE LARA, daughter of PEDRO MANRIQUE LARA and LEONOR CASTILLA.. PEDRO
MANRIQUE LARA was born in 1381 and died in 1440. LEONOR CASTILLA’S parents were
FADRIQUE CASTILLA and LEONOR ALBURQUERQUE.
PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and BEATRIZ MANRIQUE LARA;S sons were:
PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and FRANCISCO VELASCO, who married MARIA MENDOZA.
FRANCISCO VELASCO and MARIA MENDOZA’S children were:
FRANCISCO FDZ. VELASCO and BERNARDINO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who married 1. MARIA
ENRIQUEZ SARMIENTO. Their childd was
DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO, born in SPAIN and married MARIA FRANCISCA ALCOZER, daughter of
HERNANDO BANUELOS and BEATRIZ ISABEL ALCOZER. BEATRIZ’ parents were JUAN DIAZ
ALCOZER and MARIA TELLEZ.
THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
JUANITA G. DELGADO
eaherold@att.net wrote:
The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temiño. The first
> generation listed is Diego Temiño de Velasco (R: 1474), born at España. He
> married Fracisca de Alcozer (R: 1475) at España. Francisca, born at
> España. Then, it goes on to list five children of this couple: Francisca,
> Alonso, Baltazar, Diego and Mariana. VECINDAD: Fueron vecinos de Sevilla,
> salen con sus hijos de España el 13 Junio de 1538 hacia Cartagena, pasan por
> Mexico y llegan a Guadalajara, Jal. aprox. en 1543/44. Below that, is the
> citation to the Bancroft Library manuscript Esther cites.
>
> Maria E. Cortez
>
>
>
> > ——————————
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:28:06 +0000
> > From: eaherold@att.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Message-ID:
> > > 120920061728.9860.457AF2250005CDF80000268421602810600B04019D0A080E0A@att.net
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Marge,
> >
> > John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book on Nueva Galicia
> > p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft
> > library, “A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II
> > Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714″ p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film
> > from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another
> > book “Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala” by Francisco
> > Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
> >
> > I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino’s lineage
> > only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned
> > above.
> >
> > Esther
> > —
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” :
> > ————–
> >
> >
> > > I’m interested in seeing your information, if you don’t mind. Thanks.
> > > Marge:)
> > > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> > >
> > > > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > > > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> > > >
> > > > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > > > information already.
> > > >
> > > > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > > > myth also. All I know that has been
> > > > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > > > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > > > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > > > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > > > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > > > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > > > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> > > >
> > > > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > > > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > > > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > > > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > > > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > > > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > > > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > —
> > > > Esther A. Herold
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ————– Original message from “M. Vallazza” : ————–
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> It’s a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> > > >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> > > >> for verification, it appears that he isn’t. I’m a descendant of Diego
> > > >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> > > >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> > > >> Aquitaine? I’d love to know. Marge 🙂
> > > >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > > >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think
> > Francisca
> > > >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > > >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > > >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > > >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > > >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > > >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> > > >>> Fernandez
> > > >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > > >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > > >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > > >>> —
> > > >>> Esther A. Herold
> > > >>>
> >
This is the genealogy that is in question. Was this information from John Inclan’s web site? What is the original source for the information and what did the original source say? I know this information is not in the Fundadores of Nueva Galicia. Mr Garemendia Leal I believe research the archives in Jalisco.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> HELLO,
>
> This is what I have on DIEGO TREVINO OR DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO:
>
> HERE GOES:
>
> I will start from about the 6th generation from him:
>
> SANCHO SANCHEZ VELASCO married SANCHA CARRILLO; their son was
> FERNAN SANCHEZ VELASCO, who married JUANA CASTANEDA, daughter of DIEGO
> GOMEZ
> CASTANEDA and JUANA GUZMAN. Their son was
>
> PEDRO VELASCO, who died in 1384, he married MARIA SARMIENTO. Their son
> was:
> JUAN VELASCO, who married MARIA SOLIER. Their sons were:
> FERNANDO and PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who died in 1470. PEDRO
> married BEATRIZ
> MANRIQUE LARA, daughter of PEDRO MANRIQUE LARA and LEONOR CASTILLA..
> PEDRO
> MANRIQUE LARA was born in 1381 and died in 1440. LEONOR CASTILLA’S
> parents were
> FADRIQUE CASTILLA and LEONOR ALBURQUERQUE.
>
> PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and BEATRIZ MANRIQUE LARA;S sons were:
> PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and FRANCISCO VELASCO, who married MARIA
> MENDOZA.
>
> FRANCISCO VELASCO and MARIA MENDOZA’S children were:
> FRANCISCO FDZ. VELASCO and BERNARDINO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who married
> 1. MARIA
> ENRIQUEZ SARMIENTO. Their childd was
>
> DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO, born in SPAIN and married MARIA FRANCISCA
> ALCOZER, daughter of
> HERNANDO BANUELOS and BEATRIZ ISABEL ALCOZER. BEATRIZ’ parents were
> JUAN DIAZ
> ALCOZER and MARIA TELLEZ.
>
> THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
>
> JUANITA G. DELGADO
>
>
> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
> —
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> ————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
>
>
> > on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
> >
> > The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> > by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> > ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
> >
> > That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> > several genealogies.
> >
> > juanaita g. delgado
> >
> > P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> > HAPPY TO DO IT.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
> >
> >
> > I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> > I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> > on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
> >
> > The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temi
This is the genealogy that is in question. Was this information from John Inclan’s web site? What is the original source for the information and what did the original source say? I know this information is not in the Fundadores of Nueva Galicia. Mr Garemendia Leal I believe research the archives in Jalisco.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
> HELLO,
>
> This is what I have on DIEGO TREVINO OR DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO:
>
> HERE GOES:
>
> I will start from about the 6th generation from him:
>
> SANCHO SANCHEZ VELASCO married SANCHA CARRILLO; their son was
> FERNAN SANCHEZ VELASCO, who married JUANA CASTANEDA, daughter of DIEGO
> GOMEZ
> CASTANEDA and JUANA GUZMAN. Their son was
>
> PEDRO VELASCO, who died in 1384, he married MARIA SARMIENTO. Their son
> was:
> JUAN VELASCO, who married MARIA SOLIER. Their sons were:
> FERNANDO and PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who died in 1470. PEDRO
> married BEATRIZ
> MANRIQUE LARA, daughter of PEDRO MANRIQUE LARA and LEONOR CASTILLA..
> PEDRO
> MANRIQUE LARA was born in 1381 and died in 1440. LEONOR CASTILLA’S
> parents were
> FADRIQUE CASTILLA and LEONOR ALBURQUERQUE.
>
> PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and BEATRIZ MANRIQUE LARA;S sons were:
> PEDRO FERNANDEZ VELASCO and FRANCISCO VELASCO, who married MARIA
> MENDOZA.
>
> FRANCISCO VELASCO and MARIA MENDOZA’S children were:
> FRANCISCO FDZ. VELASCO and BERNARDINO FERNANDEZ VELASCO, who married
> 1. MARIA
> ENRIQUEZ SARMIENTO. Their childd was
>
> DIEGO VELASCO TREVINO, born in SPAIN and married MARIA FRANCISCA
> ALCOZER, daughter of
> HERNANDO BANUELOS and BEATRIZ ISABEL ALCOZER. BEATRIZ’ parents were
> JUAN DIAZ
> ALCOZER and MARIA TELLEZ.
>
> THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
>
> JUANITA G. DELGADO
>
>
> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
> —
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> ————– Original message from juanita delgado : ————–
>
>
> > on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
> >
> > The book ‘ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON”,
> > by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> > ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
> >
> > That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> > several genealogies.
> >
> > juanaita g. delgado
> >
> > P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> > HAPPY TO DO IT.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
> >
> >
> > I am not researching this family and don’t have any info on them. However,
> > I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> > on what’s written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
> >
> > The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temi
Rosalinda, can you contact me at longsjourney@yahoo.com I have contacted my Aunt Cecilia Virginia Banuelos and would like to share what she said with you.. at your convenience.. Also at what point in the family history are you related to her? She’s curious about you and your knowledge abt her and her siblings. She also said she’s been contacted by a De Leon whos lineage goes to Petra Flores, sister of Teodora Flores, wife of unknown De Leon. The information he gave her is different from yours. He has Teodora’s mother a Gutierrez so my Aunt Virg is very confused at this point..
thanks, Linda in Everett
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Rosalinda, can you contact me at longsjourney@yahoo.com I have contacted my Aunt Cecilia Virginia Banuelos and would like to share what she said with you.. at your convenience.. Also at what point in the family history are you related to her? She’s curious about you and your knowledge abt her and her siblings. She also said she’s been contacted by a De Leon whos lineage goes to Petra Flores, sister of Teodora Flores, wife of unknown De Leon. The information he gave her is different from yours. He has Teodora’s mother a Gutierrez so my Aunt Virg is very confused at this point..
thanks, Linda in Everett
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