Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete. The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma Dynasty.
Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in the world. I have confidence in their results.
But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she tested haplogroup B. Native American.
The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA terminology.
My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the generations to come.
Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you already knew about your heritage.
You can see the sites at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
And my personal homepage:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on Rootsweb.
Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican, but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that flows through her veins.
I have had my own Y-DNA and MtDNA tested as well as my father’s MtDNA and a maternal male cousin’s Y-DNA… all through FamilyTree DNA.
I have four lineages with the following general results:
Paternal Paternal: E3b (Mediterranean/Semetic)
Paternal Maternal: B (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
Maternal Paternal: R1b (Western European Cro-Magnon)
Maternal Maternal: A (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
I am hoping this will help me break through the brick wall that I have with my strictly paternal gggg-grandfather who was an “expuesto”. Just recently someone matched 22 of 25 markers to his DNA… sounds promising.
Let me know what information you would like.
=====================
From: Linda R Romero
Date: Fri Jun 16 09:38:31 CDT 2006
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA testing
Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
Linda, I’m waiting for the DNA results from the same lab for my mothers brother, Luis Gutierrez. I found this line of Gutierrez ancestors in Ranchos de los Palos Altos, Atoyac, Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula Jalisco from 1780 to 1920. Before that they are in Chilchota Michoacan back to abt 1650. I’ve found many families from the Chilchota, Tlazazalca, Tangancicuaro and Valle de Zamora moving to Jalisco during the same time period my Gutierrez ancestors moved there. I will be sure to post the results. My mtdna came back group A, Native American. I did submit to the Gary Felix site and will send the Gutierrez results there too.
The other Linda in Everett
Linda R Romero wrote: Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete. The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma Dynasty.
Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in the world. I have confidence in their results.
But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she tested haplogroup B. Native American.
The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA terminology.
My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the generations to come.
Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you already knew about your heritage.
You can see the sites at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
And my personal homepage:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on Rootsweb.
Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican, but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that flows through her veins.
I have had my own Y-DNA and MtDNA tested as well as my father’s MtDNA and a maternal male cousin’s Y-DNA… all through FamilyTree DNA.
I have four lineages with the following general results:
Paternal Paternal: E3b (Mediterranean/Semetic)
Paternal Maternal: B (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
Maternal Paternal: R1b (Western European Cro-Magnon)
Maternal Maternal: A (Native American from Asia circa 15K years ago)
I am hoping this will help me break through the brick wall that I have with my strictly paternal gggg-grandfather who was an “expuesto”. Just recently someone matched 22 of 25 markers to his DNA… sounds promising.
Let me know what information you would like.
=====================
From: Linda R Romero
Date: Fri Jun 16 09:38:31 CDT 2006
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA testing
Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
Linda, I’m waiting for the DNA results from the same lab for my mothers brother, Luis Gutierrez. I found this line of Gutierrez ancestors in Ranchos de los Palos Altos, Atoyac, Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula Jalisco from 1780 to 1920. Before that they are in Chilchota Michoacan back to abt 1650. I’ve found many families from the Chilchota, Tlazazalca, Tangancicuaro and Valle de Zamora moving to Jalisco during the same time period my Gutierrez ancestors moved there. I will be sure to post the results. My mtdna came back group A, Native American. I did submit to the Gary Felix site and will send the Gutierrez results there too.
The other Linda in Everett
Linda R Romero wrote: Has anyone on the NuestrosRanchos list had a Y-DNA or mtDNA test with
FamilyTreeDNA or other testing facility?
I’ve had my Y-DNA results for the Romero Surname and they are
unusual. I am interested if anyone whose ancestors are from the
Jalisco area has been tested. I am looking for comparisons and
possibly connections back to Spain and the Mediterranean area.
Linda
Ernie,
Was there ever a Father Alderete in your family? When I was little and
lived in El Paso, there was a nice priest named Father Alderete at
Sacred Heart. He was originally from El Paso and his mother lived in a
beautiful huge home in the Sunset Heights area. Is he kin to you?
Marge:)
On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:01 AM, erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
> I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete.
> The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma
> Dynasty.
>
> Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in
> the world. I have confidence in their results.
>
> But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the
> Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A
> surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We
> matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that
> could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never
> had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
>
> Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she
> tested haplogroup B. Native American.
>
> The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA
> terminology.
> My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
>
> In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames
> and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA
> families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I
> think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the
> generations to come.
>
> Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
>
> Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human
> genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as
> something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you
> already knew about your heritage.
>
> You can see the sites at:
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
>
> And my personal homepage:
> http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
>
> I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on
> Rootsweb.
>
> Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
>
> A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican,
> but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that
> his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most
> noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of
> Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that
> flows through her veins.
>
Ernie,
Was there ever a Father Alderete in your family? When I was little and
lived in El Paso, there was a nice priest named Father Alderete at
Sacred Heart. He was originally from El Paso and his mother lived in a
beautiful huge home in the Sunset Heights area. Is he kin to you?
Marge:)
On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:01 AM, erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
> I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete.
> The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma
> Dynasty.
>
> Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in
> the world. I have confidence in their results.
>
> But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the
> Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A
> surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We
> matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that
> could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never
> had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
>
> Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she
> tested haplogroup B. Native American.
>
> The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA
> terminology.
> My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
>
> In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames
> and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA
> families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I
> think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the
> generations to come.
>
> Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
>
> Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human
> genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as
> something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you
> already knew about your heritage.
>
> You can see the sites at:
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
>
> And my personal homepage:
> http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
>
> I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on
> Rootsweb.
>
> Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
>
> A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican,
> but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that
> his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most
> noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of
> Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that
> flows through her veins.
>
There’s a good chance he was kin. My father was born in Ysleta on February 28, 1923.
Ysleta was absorbed into El Paso in the 1950s.
Your priest could be an unknown cousin, or an uncle of mine.
You could see a pictrure of my dad on my personal home page to see if there is any resemblence.
My father never knew his Alderete family. Not a one of them. Having been raised by his Ramirez mother. Only now am I establshing contact with the Alderetes of El Paso, including my dad’s younger sister, my long lost aunt.
She wants to do a YDNA test to verify our growing bond, but one of her male relations has agreed to participate:(
There’s a good chance he was kin. My father was born in Ysleta on February 28, 1923.
Ysleta was absorbed into El Paso in the 1950s.
Your priest could be an unknown cousin, or an uncle of mine.
You could see a pictrure of my dad on my personal home page to see if there is any resemblence.
My father never knew his Alderete family. Not a one of them. Having been raised by his Ramirez mother. Only now am I establshing contact with the Alderetes of El Paso, including my dad’s younger sister, my long lost aunt.
She wants to do a YDNA test to verify our growing bond, but one of her male relations has agreed to participate:(
One of the long-standing challenges I face as I do research on my
Mexican roots is identifying the places. Part of the problem is that I
do not understand government jurisdictions in Mexico. In the US it’s
easy: State, County, City; or State, County, Township; and for the
most part that never varies. Oh, there is the occasional city which is
not part of any county, and there are cities which sprawl across
several counties … But all in all the arrangement is fairly
straightforward.
And there are books which detail which counties were made from which
and the dates of their formation.
But in Mexico it isn’t so easy.
There are States (Estados).
And inside the states there are Municipios, which are somewhat like US
counties, but their history is different. Many of the ranchos and
haciendas and pueblos existed long before — hundreds of years —
before there was any Municipio to include them. Ranchos were often
“elevated” to haciendas or eventually to municipios. And frankly, I
still don’t understand what makes a Municipio or what makes an
hacienda or even if there is a precise definition. Or what
distinguishes an hacienda from a Rancho.
In the US, the county generally existed first. But in Mexico the
smaller jurisdictions existed first.
There are also Parroquias, which have little if any relationship to
the civil boundaries. Parroquial boundaries were supposed by Catholic
law to be well-defined, so that the parishioners would not be confused
about who was responsible for their spiritual help. But there are many
kinds of parishes and there are parishes which aren’t technically
parishes and a lot of other complications that are wearisome to read
about (See Catholicity in Google, keywords: parish, diocese).
So …
How shall I describe a place in my database?
If my ancestor was christened in Rincón de Romos, I know that Rincón
de Romos the town is part of the Municipio of Rincón de Romos, which
is in the estado de Aguascalientes — so I put
“Rincón de Romos, Rincón de Romos, Aguascalientes, México”.
Easy enough. Right?
But it’s not.
The Municipio of Rincón de Romos didn’t exist until very recently,
sometime after 1900 I think. TODAY, Rincón de Romos is in Rincón de
Romos, but not in the 1800’s. The pueblo was situated within the
Parroquial boundaries of San José de Gracia. So I might accurately put
(if I decide to use the parochial boundaries to describe the
location) …
“Rincón de Romos, Parroquia San José de Gracia, Aguascalientes,
México”.
For a lot of things that works fine. But civil jurisdictions for those
small villages is not so easy to define. I think there were about four
“regions” in Aguascalientes, but what was their structure or extent or
nature I do not know.
And to make it even more ambiguous, Aguascalientes as an estado was
not created until … about 1880’s? Before that there was no such
state but the region was called Aguascalientes or Aguas Calientes as
it was named I think from the catholic diocese of that name, but I am
really fuzzy about the details.
It would be great to have one of those maps like are available for the
US that show all of the boundaries and jurisdictions every 10 years or
so.
Then about 1905 (I have not been able to determine the precise date)
it seems that a new parish was formed and it was called Rincón de
Romos. It is hard to tell from the christening record films whether
there really was a Parroquia Rincón de Romos or whether it was just
that the Parish church for Parroquia San José de Gracia was in Rincón,
or maybe it was just that the records were eventually deposited there.
Today, both Rincón and San José are significant cities within their
respective Municipios which bear the same names.
And then there is another small town in the same area called San José
de Gracia that is not the same as the big one … but that’s another
subject.
I have searched the internet in vain to find out when the parishes of
San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos were created. Does anyone know
this information? Seems like it ought to be part of Catholic church
history recorded somewhere.
If anyone has any insight on this topic I would sure like to hear from
you. To me it is still much of a big mystery. I am hoping this topic
generates some discussion and I’m hoping I might learn something about
Mexico’s Place jurisdictions.
—
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuart-ranchos@comcast.net
One of the long-standing challenges I face as I do research on my
Mexican roots is identifying the places. Part of the problem is that I
do not understand government jurisdictions in Mexico. In the US it’s
easy: State, County, City; or State, County, Township; and for the
most part that never varies. Oh, there is the occasional city which is
not part of any county, and there are cities which sprawl across
several counties … But all in all the arrangement is fairly
straightforward.
And there are books which detail which counties were made from which
and the dates of their formation.
But in Mexico it isn’t so easy.
There are States (Estados).
And inside the states there are Municipios, which are somewhat like US
counties, but their history is different. Many of the ranchos and
haciendas and pueblos existed long before — hundreds of years —
before there was any Municipio to include them. Ranchos were often
“elevated” to haciendas or eventually to municipios. And frankly, I
still don’t understand what makes a Municipio or what makes an
hacienda or even if there is a precise definition. Or what
distinguishes an hacienda from a Rancho.
In the US, the county generally existed first. But in Mexico the
smaller jurisdictions existed first.
There are also Parroquias, which have little if any relationship to
the civil boundaries. Parroquial boundaries were supposed by Catholic
law to be well-defined, so that the parishioners would not be confused
about who was responsible for their spiritual help. But there are many
kinds of parishes and there are parishes which aren’t technically
parishes and a lot of other complications that are wearisome to read
about (See Catholicity in Google, keywords: parish, diocese).
So …
How shall I describe a place in my database?
If my ancestor was christened in Rincón de Romos, I know that Rincón
de Romos the town is part of the Municipio of Rincón de Romos, which
is in the estado de Aguascalientes — so I put
“Rincón de Romos, Rincón de Romos, Aguascalientes, México”.
Easy enough. Right?
But it’s not.
The Municipio of Rincón de Romos didn’t exist until very recently,
sometime after 1900 I think. TODAY, Rincón de Romos is in Rincón de
Romos, but not in the 1800’s. The pueblo was situated within the
Parroquial boundaries of San José de Gracia. So I might accurately put
(if I decide to use the parochial boundaries to describe the
location) …
“Rincón de Romos, Parroquia San José de Gracia, Aguascalientes,
México”.
For a lot of things that works fine. But civil jurisdictions for those
small villages is not so easy to define. I think there were about four
“regions” in Aguascalientes, but what was their structure or extent or
nature I do not know.
And to make it even more ambiguous, Aguascalientes as an estado was
not created until … about 1880’s? Before that there was no such
state but the region was called Aguascalientes or Aguas Calientes as
it was named I think from the catholic diocese of that name, but I am
really fuzzy about the details.
It would be great to have one of those maps like are available for the
US that show all of the boundaries and jurisdictions every 10 years or
so.
Then about 1905 (I have not been able to determine the precise date)
it seems that a new parish was formed and it was called Rincón de
Romos. It is hard to tell from the christening record films whether
there really was a Parroquia Rincón de Romos or whether it was just
that the Parish church for Parroquia San José de Gracia was in Rincón,
or maybe it was just that the records were eventually deposited there.
Today, both Rincón and San José are significant cities within their
respective Municipios which bear the same names.
And then there is another small town in the same area called San José
de Gracia that is not the same as the big one … but that’s another
subject.
I have searched the internet in vain to find out when the parishes of
San José de Gracia and Rincón de Romos were created. Does anyone know
this information? Seems like it ought to be part of Catholic church
history recorded somewhere.
If anyone has any insight on this topic I would sure like to hear from
you. To me it is still much of a big mystery. I am hoping this topic
generates some discussion and I’m hoping I might learn something about
Mexico’s Place jurisdictions.
—
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuart-ranchos@comcast.net
I also have had my mtDNA tested (by Family Tree DNA Project). I tested out as Haplogroup H with the following mutation/polymorphism in positions – 16519c and 16172c. The H grouping places my maternal ancestry some 15 -20 thousand years ago in Western Europe. 40 -60% of the gene pool of most European populations is Haplogroup H.
Rome and Athens frequency of H is around 40 of the entire population. My genealogy focuses on the Island of Madeira, Portugal with links to Mainland Portugal, Spain, France. I’m currently waiting on the results of my H refinement test, hopefully that will produce matches within what is termed the genealogy time frame.
I hoping that my Mexican husband will have both his mtDNA and YDNA tested. I’m thinking his result for his mtDNA will be Native American, while his YDNA will be Western Europe… but I’m anxious to find out. This is such an interesting phase of learning about our “roots.” You are so right about whatever the outcome of being tested is, it does not change/invalidate one’s known heritage.
Pat Silva Corbera
erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete. The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma Dynasty.
Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in the world. I have confidence in their results.
But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she tested haplogroup B. Native American.
The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA terminology.
My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the generations to come.
Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you already knew about your heritage.
You can see the sites at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
And my personal homepage:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on Rootsweb.
Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican, but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that flows through her veins.
I also have had my mtDNA tested (by Family Tree DNA Project). I tested out as Haplogroup H with the following mutation/polymorphism in positions – 16519c and 16172c. The H grouping places my maternal ancestry some 15 -20 thousand years ago in Western Europe. 40 -60% of the gene pool of most European populations is Haplogroup H.
Rome and Athens frequency of H is around 40 of the entire population. My genealogy focuses on the Island of Madeira, Portugal with links to Mainland Portugal, Spain, France. I’m currently waiting on the results of my H refinement test, hopefully that will produce matches within what is termed the genealogy time frame.
I hoping that my Mexican husband will have both his mtDNA and YDNA tested. I’m thinking his result for his mtDNA will be Native American, while his YDNA will be Western Europe… but I’m anxious to find out. This is such an interesting phase of learning about our “roots.” You are so right about whatever the outcome of being tested is, it does not change/invalidate one’s known heritage.
Pat Silva Corbera
erniealderete@charter.net wrote:
I have two projects with family tree. One for my surname, Alderete. The other for my ancestry and the imperial heritage of the Moctezuma Dynasty.
Family Tree is the oldest, most respected and largest testing lab in the world. I have confidence in their results.
But the initial results often come as a major jolt! I’ve had both the Y and mtDNA tests. My Y tests were also unusual to say the least. A surprise to me, and my sister. Actually, the results floored us! We matched a Czech family on the east coast. They sent us pictures that could of been of my late father, they were so much like us. We never had a family tradition of any Slavic background. But there it was.
Mi mamacita es guerrita. Rubia, ojos de color. Blanquita. Yet she tested haplogroup B. Native American.
The mtDNA terminology is completely different from the YDNA terminology.
My paternal side tested R1B1. The predominant haplogroup in Iberia.
In my opinion our hapglogroups transcend our nationalities, surnames and paper trails. By that I mean our super tirbes, our extended DNA families, are more important than being Hispanic, Latino, or Anglo. I think this is a trend or concept that will accelerate in the generations to come.
Let me know your specific questions, or concerns.
Remember that the Y chromosone is one of the smallest in the human genome. It determines only male gender. If your Y gene tests as something you did not expect, that does not invalidate what you already knew about your heritage.
You can see the sites at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma
And my personal homepage:
http://www.genealogy.com/users/a/l/d/Ernie-Alderete/
I am also administrator for the Alderete and Moctezuma name lists on Rootsweb.
Anything regarding both heritages is of interest to me.
A young Anglo lady recently wrote to me. Her late father was Mexican, but she really never knew him or his culture. All she knew was that his last name was Moctezuma. I told her she inherited one of the most noble names and heritages in the world. She had never even heard of Emperor Moctezuma. She was completely innocent of the greatness that flows through her veins.
