Armando
I see, but in my opinion it was a lot better how it was before.Another thing i need help on im searching for a individual named Barbara Delgadillo Gil in family search it said that she was baptized on 15 Nov 1711 so i look up the record image which is on Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.After that i click on one of the dates Bautismos 1639-1711 and nothing it actually goes up to May of 1711.Then i click to another date Bautismos 1708-1722 and nothing it stop like around July 1711 and after that it skips 4 whole years?Here is the link down below if anyone wants to help
Abram,
It’s possible that you are not using the slide bar on the right side of the page…slide it downward to view all the listings…
Pat
—– Original Message —–
Thank you Adrian and Armando. I followed your directions.. I lost my lead on page 90 with the date discussed, and I assumed there were lost pages out of order and when I first read your instruction I assumed I was lead to the general film.
You are great.
Hope I can return the Favor.
It seems that retoños may have missed this son or transferred the name in tomo 5 page 55 Jose Santiago born Dec 13, 1758 married to Juana Gertrudis Perez Gallo on January 30, 1782; As we just confirmed the name was Jose Juachin married to Juana Gertrudis Perez Gallo the same day .
Miggy
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:04:02 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] need help
>
> Miggy,
>
> Adrián Márquez Padilla had provided the image number where the marriage is
> found before your last response. In hundreds and maybe even a thousand
> records I have searched for based on record that shows up on search and
> provides a film number I have always found the record in that same film.
> There has never been a mistake in that regard. What has to be done at times
> is search the whole volume page by page because the record can be out of
> order. I’ve tried to point this out in multiple posts. I had given you the
> link to the volume to provoke you into searching it again because it there
> and Adrián found it for you.
>
> Here is what Adrián Márquez Padilla said. Let me know if you need a
> tranlation.
>
> “*
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-45939-11?cc=1874591&wc=12506208
> En la direccion proporcionada amablemente por Armando y en la imagen 56 se
> encuentra el acta.
>
> Xalostitlan* *
> D. Jose Joachin Gutierrez de Laris, con Doña Juana Gertrudis Peres Gallo
> Todos Españoles
> Velados
>
> En la Iglesia Parroquial de Xalostitlan a treinta de enero de Mil
> Setecientos Ochenta y Dos. Yo el Presbitero Don Jose Maria de Asedo Cura
> Interino Case y Vele infacie Eclecie por palabras de presente que hacen
> verdaderos matrimonios a Don. Jose Joachin Gutierres de Laris Español
> originario y vecino de esta feligresia hijo legitimo de Don Antonio
> Gutierres De Laris difunto y de Doña Cathalina Ramires de Hermosillo, con
> Doña Juana Gertrudis Peres Gallo, Española originaria y vecina de esta
> feligresia en el puesto de la parada, hija legitima de Don Salvador Gallo y
> de Doña Gertrudis Masias Balades (difunta) habiendo precedido antes la
> información de libertad y soltura de matrimonio y las tres proclamas
> prevenidas por el Santo Concilio de trento en tres dias festivos inter
> Misarium Solemnia que lo fueron, martes primero de enero dia de la
> circuncisión de el Sr., Domingo seis, Domingo trece de Enero, en cuya
> virtud se casaron y velaron ante mi, y testigos que lo fueron Jua* *
> chin Rubio Sachristan y Don Jose Lucas el fiscal, y los padrinos Don Jose
> Santiago Gutierrez Y Doña Juana Theresa Gutierrez y para que conste lo
> firme con el Sr. Cura. (Rubrica) B. Jose Maria de Azeda…
>
> También puedes encontrar su informacion matrimonial en la siguiente
> direccion:* *
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18448-41517-48?cc=1874591&wc=12505976
> * *
> Imagen 5 y 6.*”
>
>
> Saludos
> Armando
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Miggy GUTIERREZ wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks Armando but I already looked in the referred location but it is not
> > there. I was hoping someone may have tripped into the right place by
> > mistake.
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 05:21:19 -0500
> > > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] need help
> > >
> > > That will almost definitely be found in the volume Matrimonios 1780-1791.
> > >
> > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-45939-11?cc=1874591&wc=12506208
> > >
> > > Armando
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Miggy GUTIERREZ > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a problem with the marriage date of Jose Juachin Gutierrez de
> > Laris
> > > > with Juana Gallo January 30, 1782
> > > >
> > > > parents: Antonio Gutierres De Laris,? Cathalina Ramires
> > > > spouse: Juana Gertrudis Peres Gallo
> > > >
> > > > groom’s name: Jose Juachin Gutierres De Laris
> > > > bride’s name: Juana Gertrudis Peres Gallo
> > > > marriage date: 30 Jan 1782
> > > > marriage place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan,
> > Jalisco,
> > > > Mexico
> > > > groom’s father’s name: Anttonio Gutierres De Laris
> > > > groom’s mother’s name: Cathalina Ramires
> > > > bride’s father’s name: Salbador Gallo
> > > > bride’s mother’s name: Gertrudis Masias Balades
> > > > indexing project (batch) number: M60322-7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Family search has the date on the search and I cannot find it once I
> > look
> > > > at the Marriage on Browse. Does anyone have this research.
> > > > This info may conflict with Retonos de Espana.
> > > >
> > > > I can confirm the marriage from the marriage of their son Jose Ignacio
> > > > Gutierrez with Antonia Martin del Campo February 13, 1809.in San
> > Juan de
> > > > los Lagoss.
> > > >
> > > > Miguel Gutierrez
> > > >
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Bill,
The following girl seems to be the Juana DIAS DE SANDI you are searching for. She would have been only three months old at her mother Juana LOMELIN’s death, (perhaps too young to be included in any documents) and 15 years old at the time of her own marriage to Joseph Alexandro ACOSTA.
From Film #299530, Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag (inc Hac. Cieneguilla) Bau 1719-1733, Image 10.
Juana, española, baptized 6 Apr 1720, Ags,
hija lexitima de Ju. DIAS DE SANDI y Doña Juana LOMELIN y MENDOZA.
Padrino: el capitan Don Andres TELLO De LOMAS.
Gloria Delgado
I don’t like the way it was before or the way it is now. It could have been
done without scroll bars, vertical or horizontal. However, neither format
had anything with you not being able to find the Jalisco images.
As far as the baptismal record you are looking for it is in film number
634015. It will definitely be in that film, without a doubt. You will have
to jump around to find it.
Armando
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:01 PM, wrote:
> Armando
>
>
> I see, but in my opinion it was a lot better how it was before.Another
> thing i need help on im searching for a individual named Barbara Delgadillo
> Gil in family search it said that she was baptized on 15 Nov 1711 so i look
> up the record image which is on Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
> Jalisco, Mexico.After that i click on one of the dates Bautismos 1639-1711
> and nothing it actually goes up to May of 1711.Then i click to another date
> Bautismos 1708-1722 and nothing it stop like around July 1711 and after
> that it skips 4 whole years?Here is the link down below if anyone wants to
> help
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/**MM9.1.1/J93R-VMB
>
Abram,
We need to learn to use what’s available. In my opinion just having it available on line is wonderful.
Before December of 2010 in order to look at films, you had to go to your local family history center and order your film. You paid a fee for each roll of film and then you waited 5-6 weeks for your film to come to your local family history center from Salt Lake. You would go to your local FHC and view the film on microfilm readers. When you found a record you wanted, you had to pay a fee for every copy. I remember paying up to 25 cents per photocopy. Depending on your local FHC they were open 2 to 3 days a week and if the hours didn’t work for you, tough. The film could only be viewed at the one local FHC, you couldn’t take it to a different one that had better research hours and there were times when you’d order some film and it sat for the 3-4 weeks alloted time and pouf, that time passed and maybe you’d had time to view it once or twice. If you wanted it to remain longer at your FHC, you had to pay another fee to extend it for another 4 weeks.
So you see it’s available on-line, 24/7, you just have to be patient, do the work, seek all options and be smart about searching the archives.
Alicia
________________________________
From: “aflore2855@gmail.com”
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Search Problems??
Armando
I see, but in my opinion it was a lot better how it was before.Another thing i need help on im searching for a individual named Barbara Delgadillo Gil in family search it said that she was baptized on 15 Nov 1711 so i look up the record image which is on Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.After that i click on one of the dates Bautismos 1639-1711 and nothing it actually goes up to May of 1711.Then i click to another date Bautismos 1708-1722 and nothing it stop like around July 1711 and after that it skips 4 whole years?Here is the link down below if anyone wants to help
Hi Gloria,
Thank you very much for answering my question. Juana de Lomelin y Hurtado
de Mendoza was ill when her daughter was born and probably died of
post-partum complications three months after giving birth to her daughter.
The baptismal record also indicates that Juana was “hija lexitima de Juan
Díaz de Sandi y de Da Juana de Lomelin y Mendoza difunta”. The word difunta
was later scratched out by the priest. Here is the sequence of events:
06 Apr 1720 – Juana Díaz de Sandi is baptized in Aguascalientes.
28 Jun 1720 – Her mother Juana de Lomelin y Hurtado de Mendoza, gravely
ill in bed after giving birth to her daughter, authorized her husband Juan
Díaz de Sandi to file her final will and testament on her behalf. No
mention of her newborn is made in her deposition, made in presence of the
scribe and witnesses.
05 Jul 1720 – Juana de Lomelín y Hurtado de Mendoza dies and is buried in
Aguascalientes.
18 Oct 1720 – Juan Díaz de Sandi files his wife’s testament on her behalf.
No mention of their daughter Juana, who was probably not expected to live.
Thank again for your help, Gloria.
All the best,
BILL FIGUEROA
—– Original Message —–
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:55 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DIAS DE SANDI, Juana
Bill,
The following girl seems to be the Juana DIAS DE SANDI you are searching
for. She would have been only three months old at her mother Juana
LOMELIN’s death, (perhaps too young to be included in any documents) and 15
years old at the time of her own marriage to Joseph Alexandro ACOSTA.
From Film #299530, Mex CCRec Ags Ags Sag (inc Hac. Cieneguilla) Bau
1719-1733, Image 10.
Juana, española, baptized 6 Apr 1720, Ags,
hija lexitima de Ju. DIAS DE SANDI y Doña Juana LOMELIN y MENDOZA.
Padrino: el capitan Don Andres TELLO De LOMAS.
Gloria Delgado
I agree. The current way is much better.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 1, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Abram,
>
> We need to learn to use what’s available. In my opinion just having it available on line is wonderful.
>
>
> Before December of 2010 in order to look at films, you had to go to your local family history center and order your film. You paid a fee for each roll of film and then you waited 5-6 weeks for your film to come to your local family history center from Salt Lake. You would go to your local FHC and view the film on microfilm readers. When you found a record you wanted, you had to pay a fee for every copy. I remember paying up to 25 cents per photocopy. Depending on your local FHC they were open 2 to 3 days a week and if the hours didn’t work for you, tough. The film could only be viewed at the one local FHC, you couldn’t take it to a different one that had better research hours and there were times when you’d order some film and it sat for the 3-4 weeks alloted time and pouf, that time passed and maybe you’d had time to view it once or twice. If you wanted it to remain longer at your FHC, you had to pay another fee to extend it for another 4 weeks.
>
> So you see it’s available on-line, 24/7, you just have to be patient, do the work, seek all options and be smart about searching the archives.
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: “aflore2855@gmail.com”
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 4:01 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Family Search Problems??
>
> Armando
>
>
> I see, but in my opinion it was a lot better how it was before.Another thing i need help on im searching for a individual named Barbara Delgadillo Gil in family search it said that she was baptized on 15 Nov 1711 so i look up the record image which is on Nuestra Señora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico.After that i click on one of the dates Bautismos 1639-1711 and nothing it actually goes up to May of 1711.Then i click to another date Bautismos 1708-1722 and nothing it stop like around July 1711 and after that it skips 4 whole years?Here is the link down below if anyone wants to help
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J93R-VMB
