Sorry, I do not have any Llamas or Casas within my data.
I am interested in your information, I will be looking in the next months.
Keep in touch.

Sylvia H Corona

Hello Joseph, I stem out from two branches from Antonio Miramontes, and Maria Teresa Munoz.

I also have a record for their daughter, Juana Maria Miramontes, born 27 Sep 1715 – married to Francisco (Carlos?) Godoy 14 Feb 1734 – film 443968 M607139 – which shows his parents as Francisco Godoy and Maria Rosa Llamas.

A few years ago, when I encountered the “Carlos de Godoy” line, I was quite confused, as sometimes the name was written as Carlos, Carlos de Godoy (Godi) or just Godoy. I actually discontinued researching the line for awhile, then I was told by a fellow researcher that they were one in the same.
(quen sabe?)
I have on long term, film 443968 – M607139. Which includes both marriages for Francisco Godoy, I would be happy to look at the documents for you, to see how the name is actually written.
Saludos/hs

Joseph Puentes wrote:

here is some info on my cousins Godoy family. Please contact me and I’ll
put you in touch with him if you see a connections:

Francisco Xavier Godoy who married Maria Anttonia Casas daughter of
Manuel Casas and Ygnes Guerra in Sept 14, 1741 in Tlaltenango Sanchez
Roman Zacatecas. I also show him married to Juana Maria Miramontes who
parents are Antonio Miramontes and Maria Tereza Munos on Feb 14, 1734
Francisco Godoy parents are Francisco Godoy and Maria Rosa Llamas. Same
person or brothers? I hope to find out in the next few months. I have 5
children for Francisco and Anttonia Casas, Jose Antonio, Francisco
Tehodoro, Gertrudis Polonia , Maria Francisca and Jossept Dionicio.

joseph

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Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

Hi Prima,

How are you doing Helyn? I want to introduce you to my cousin in this
email. Helyn Sparkman (Castaneda) please meet Andy Hernandez.

I don’t study the Godoy line since I haven’t tied into it, but maybe one
day I will and my enthusiasm for that research will increase. I am
interested only on behalf of my cousins Andres (Andy) Hernandez and his
wife Mary Reyes (I’m not sure but I think only Andy ties into the Godoy’s).

I’ve CC’ed Andy in this email and from what it looks like to me you both
are cousins, what 7th or 8th cousins or something like that. I’ll leave
you two as newly found familia to get aquainted. Isn’t it something
famlies that were separated about 300 years ago and became lost are now
found. Time to rejoice.

I’m so far away in North Carolina and you two are in California. I
wished I could visit more often.

take care,

joseph

ps: Helyn one day you and I might find we are related through our
Castaneda’s. Andy is also a Castaneda via the same line as I am. We both
decend from the Diaz and Castaneda’s that came from Coculitlen,
Zacatecas and moved to the Colotlan area of Jalisco. In the mean time
you and I grow closer through our mutual cousin.

====================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://H2Opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)

Santos Luna wrote:
> Hello Joseph, I stem out from two branches from Antonio Miramontes, and Maria Teresa Munoz.
>
> I also have a record for their daughter, Juana Maria Miramontes, born 27 Sep 1715 – married to Francisco (Carlos?) Godoy 14 Feb 1734 – film 443968 M607139 – which shows his parents as Francisco Godoy and Maria Rosa Llamas.
>
> A few years ago, when I encountered the “Carlos de Godoy” line, I was quite confused, as sometimes the name was written as Carlos, Carlos de Godoy (Godi) or just Godoy. I actually discontinued researching the line for awhile, then I was told by a fellow researcher that they were one in the same.
> (quen sabe?)
> I have on long term, film 443968 – M607139. Which includes both marriages for Francisco Godoy, I would be happy to look at the documents for you, to see how the name is actually written.
> Saludos/hs
>
>
>
> Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
> here is some info on my cousins Godoy family. Please contact me and I’ll
> put you in touch with him if you see a connections:
>
> Francisco Xavier Godoy who married Maria Anttonia Casas daughter of
> Manuel Casas and Ygnes Guerra in Sept 14, 1741 in Tlaltenango Sanchez
> Roman Zacatecas. I also show him married to Juana Maria Miramontes who
> parents are Antonio Miramontes and Maria Tereza Munos on Feb 14, 1734
> Francisco Godoy parents are Francisco Godoy and Maria Rosa Llamas. Same
> person or brothers? I hope to find out in the next few months. I have 5
> children for Francisco and Anttonia Casas, Jose Antonio, Francisco
> Tehodoro, Gertrudis Polonia , Maria Francisca and Jossept Dionicio.
>
> joseph
>
>
>
> ———————————
> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

Joseph:

I also have Francisco de Godoy married to Juana Maria de Miramontes in my database:

http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/getperson.php?personID=I1365

I am descended from his brother Agustin Godoy.

I have just returned from a trip to Teocaltiche and was able to find information on: Diego Alonso de Hermosillo married to Doña Juana de Alderete and his marriage to Luysa de Nava. If you are interested it in this information please contact me at:

1gnzlz@verizon.net

John Gonzalez.

John, how was the meeting. Is this the same Diego married Feb 19, 1669, Son of Diego-Alonso Ramirez de hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava. I need info on the parents of Juana Alderete.
—– Original Message —–
From: John Gonzalez
To: Research Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

I have just returned from a trip to Teocaltiche and was able to find information on: Diego Alonso de Hermosillo married to Doña Juana de Alderete and his marriage to Luysa de Nava. If you are interested it in this information please contact me at:

1gnzlz@verizon.net

John Gonzalez.

Hi Miggy:

We had a very interesting and educational meeting at Valle de Guadalupe, the
local hosts were just great.

Here is the info on Juana de Alderete:

Source: Parroquia de Nuestra Señora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche Jalisco.
Matrimonios Libro #1, Fojas #113V.
al margen:Diego Alonso con Juana de Alderete
Diego Alonso de Hermosillo con Doña Juana de Alderete, vecinos de este
pueblo.
Juana de Alderete: Hija de Francisco de Alderete y Doña Elbira de Padilla
(difunta)

Padrinos: Capitan Pedro de Burgos y Doña Josepha de Leon.

Here’s information on his first wife:

Source: Parroquia de Nuestra Señora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco
Matrimonios, Libro #1, Fojas 31V.

Diego Alonso de Hermosillo con Luysa de Nava
23 Feb 1645, vecinos de de este pueblo.

Hija de Francisca Muños de Nava
Padrinos: Alonso Ramirez y Paula Torres.

I hope this is what you were looking for.

John Gonzalez
========================================================================================

—– Original Message —–
From: “Miggy GUTIERREZ”
To:
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:31
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

John, how was the meeting. Is this the same Diego married Feb 19, 1669, Son
of Diego-Alonso Ramirez de hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava. I need info
on the parents of Juana Alderete.

John, I am confused. I have Diego Alonso b-abt 1646 with Juana Alderete the same, yet I have Diego Alonso Ramirez de Hermosillo b-abt 1625 (his father) m- Feb 23, 1645 to Luisa Muñoz de Nava b- abt 1626(his Mother) not his wife source -Jaime Holcombe– my own abreviation So-57 47-02 film
—– Original Message —–
From: John Gonzalez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

Hi Miggy:

We had a very interesting and educational meeting at Valle de Guadalupe, the
local hosts were just great.

Here is the info on Juana de Alderete:

Source: Parroquia de Nuestra Señora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche Jalisco.
Matrimonios Libro #1, Fojas #113V.
al margen:Diego Alonso con Juana de Alderete
Diego Alonso de Hermosillo con Doña Juana de Alderete, vecinos de este
pueblo.
Juana de Alderete: Hija de Francisco de Alderete y Doña Elbira de Padilla
(difunta)

Padrinos: Capitan Pedro de Burgos y Doña Josepha de Leon.

Here’s information on his first wife:

Source: Parroquia de Nuestra Señora de Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco
Matrimonios, Libro #1, Fojas 31V.

Diego Alonso de Hermosillo con Luysa de Nava
23 Feb 1645, vecinos de de este pueblo.

Hija de Francisca Muños de Nava
Padrinos: Alonso Ramirez y Paula Torres.

I hope this is what you were looking for.

John Gonzalez
========================================================================================

—– Original Message —–
From: “Miggy GUTIERREZ” <miggychino@msn.com>
To: <research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:31
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

John, how was the meeting. Is this the same Diego married Feb 19, 1669, Son
of Diego-Alonso Ramirez de hermosillo and Luisa Muñoz de Nava. I need info
on the parents of Juana Alderete.

I can see where someone can be confused: Both marriage records have the
same name, Diego Alonso de Hermosillo, as the groom.
Could it be the first Diego who married Luysa Nava on 23 Feb 1645 is the
father of Diego Alonso de Hermosillo who married Juana de Alderete on 19 fib
1669?

I got these records directly from the church in Teocaltiche.

—– Original Message —–
From: “Miggy GUTIERREZ”
To:
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 13:31
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

John, I am confused. I have Diego Alonso b-abt 1646 with Juana Alderete the
same, yet I have Diego Alonso Ramirez de Hermosillo b-abt 1625 (his father)
m- Feb 23, 1645 to Luisa Muñoz de Nava b- abt 1626(his Mother) not his wife
source -Jaime Holcombe– my own abreviation So-57 47-02 film

John, it seems that way. Diego and Luisa’s other kids are Diego alonso b-1646, Catarina Gonzalez de hermosillob-1648, Capitan Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo b-1649, Francisco Ramires de Hermosillo b-1651, Gertrudis de Nava b-1653, Andres Munoz de hermosillo b-1655, Capitan Melchor Munoz de Hermosillo b-1658
—– Original Message —–
From: John Gonzalez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:11 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Confusion

Miggy:

I can see where someone can be confused: Both marriage records have the
same name, Diego Alonso de Hermosillo, as the groom.
Could it be the first Diego who married Luysa Nava on 23 Feb 1645 is the
father of Diego Alonso de Hermosillo who married Juana de Alderete on 19 fib
1669?

I got these records directly from the church in Teocaltiche.

—– Original Message —–
From: “Miggy GUTIERREZ” <miggychino@msn.com>
To: <research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 13:31
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Info

John, I am confused. I have Diego Alonso b-abt 1646 with Juana Alderete the
same, yet I have Diego Alonso Ramirez de Hermosillo b-abt 1625 (his father)
m- Feb 23, 1645 to Luisa Muñoz de Nava b- abt 1626(his Mother) not his wife
source -Jaime Holcombe– my own abreviation So-57 47-02 film

John,

Back to our favorite subject, the marriage of Diego Alonso de Hermosillo.
Did you get a photocopy of the marriage records from the church in
Teocaltiche? If this Diego is the same who married 1) Luisa Muñoz de Nava
and 2) Juana de Alderete y Padilla, the priest who married him the second
time should have mentioned that he was a widower. That was standard
procedure in the mid-1600s. That leads me to believe that the Diego who
married Juana de Alderete y Padilla was his son born ca. 1646. He would
have been 24 years old. Any chance you could scan these two marriage
records and email them to us?

Thanks,
Bill Figueroa

Hi Bill:

Bad news, I went to the Notaría in the Church in Teocaltiche, hoping that I
would be allowed to look at books and maybe get some pictures of the
records in them, but that didn’t happen. The policy is not to allow anybody
to handle the books, they are in very poor condition and they probably
couldn’t stand up to the rough handling or abuse. I was not even allowed to
take pictures of the records. My wife’s family lives in Teocaltiche and
they know the person in charge of the Notaría, but they were not about to
make an exception. I Understand the church’s position and reason for the
policy, the books are hundreds of years old and they are priceless.

I can send you a copy of the certified certificate, but it is not a
photocopy from the original record, it is a transcription of it, and I have
already sent you that information. I was told that it was the only
information found in the original records. I felt very frustrated, hoping
that I would find a lot more information, but it is just not there…By the
way, they charge $75 Pesos to look up each record. I think each church sets
its own fees and policies on how the record books are handled. I’ve heard
that in some other places , like Cañadas de Obregon, they do allow the
public to search through the record books.

I am sorry Bill.

John Gonzalez

—– Original Message —–
From: “Bill Figueroa”
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 14:38
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Diego Alonso de Hermosillo

John,

Back to our favorite subject, the marriage of Diego Alonso de Hermosillo.
Did you get a photocopy of the marriage records from the church in
Teocaltiche?

Thanks for the information, John. I guess the two transcriptions were taken
“verbatim” from the original records. I understand why so many catholic
churches have banned the general public from accessing their records. They
are fragile, easy to damage and indeed priceless. I feel very lucky to be
able to do my research at a nearby FHC. The Church of Latter Day Saints of
Jesus Christ has done a great service to humanity by copying millions of
church and civil records and preserving them for future generations.

I would appreciate it if you could scan the two records from the Church in
Teocaltiche and email them directly to my email address. I will continue to
research this family and will let you know if anything else comes up.

Bill

—– Original Message —–
From: “John Gonzalez”
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Records in Teocaltiche

Hi Bill:

Bad news, I went to the Notaría in the Church in Teocaltiche, hoping that I
would be allowed to look at books and maybe get some pictures…

Buenas:

A ver si me pueden dar algun dato de ANTONIO NUNGARAY AGUAO quien fue bautizado en NOCHISTLAN, ZAC. el 23 de Enero de 1647.

Gracias anticipadas.

Suerte es lo que pasa cuando la preparaciòn encuentra a la oportunidad. Sèneca.
Enrique Nungaray LUTCF
Promotorias 20/284/296