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(@yotomas)
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Jonathan
is it possible to add the file on the yahoo group?
if not could you send it to me in a zip?

Gracias
Yolanda

Jonathan wrote:
For those who want a copy of the Nobility line file, send me a email.

Jonathan

——— Original Message ——–
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal
lines?
Date: 06/17/07 12:36

> For those of you who would like it. I can send a file that supposibly
> traces the European Royality back to Adam. It is about 2.6 meg in size.
>
> Jonathan
>
> ——— Original Message ——–
> From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org

> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?
> Date: 06/15/07 18:23
>
> >
> > I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came
from
> portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de
> Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up
> through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son
was
> born in 1567, and then the rest is just what the royals except the
> genealogy.
> >
> > Here is what it looks like
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas, Count of Dornelas, born ca. 1462 in Dornelas,
Portugal
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1494 in Lisbon, Portugal
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1531 in Mexico City
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born 24 Mar 1567 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco
> >
> > I guess Alvaro was a family name!
> >
> > If you keep going back to genealogy the Ornelas descend from the
Pedro I,
> King of Portugal, through one of the Ornelas who married his daughter
> Princess Estefania of Portugal, and also King Robert II of France through
> one of his daughters, Princess Alembert of France and then the Kings of
> Aragon, though Princess Jimena of Aragon. The Ornelas are direct
descedants
> of Ramiro III, King of Leon. Im also having this problem with other noble
> lines, but Im not sure whether just to except what has been established or
> keep searching. Im assuming the Nobility kept good records i suppose. Can
> anyone help me, Im really confused. What would you do? Thanks.
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Posted : 18/06/2007 3:30 pm
(@yotomas)
Posts: 29
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Jonathan
is it possible to add the file on the yahoo group?
if not could you send it to me in a zip?

Gracias
Yolanda

Jonathan wrote:
For those who want a copy of the Nobility line file, send me a email.

Jonathan

——— Original Message ——–
From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal
lines?
Date: 06/17/07 12:36

> For those of you who would like it. I can send a file that supposibly
> traces the European Royality back to Adam. It is about 2.6 meg in size.
>
> Jonathan
>
> ——— Original Message ——–
> From: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org

> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] How do you get evidence for Noble/royal lines?
> Date: 06/15/07 18:23
>
> >
> > I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came
from
> portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de
> Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up
> through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son
was
> born in 1567, and then the rest is just what the royals except the
> genealogy.
> >
> > Here is what it looks like
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas, Count of Dornelas, born ca. 1462 in Dornelas,
Portugal
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1494 in Lisbon, Portugal
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1531 in Mexico City
> >
> > Alvaro de Ornelas born 24 Mar 1567 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco
> >
> > I guess Alvaro was a family name!
> >
> > If you keep going back to genealogy the Ornelas descend from the
Pedro I,
> King of Portugal, through one of the Ornelas who married his daughter
> Princess Estefania of Portugal, and also King Robert II of France through
> one of his daughters, Princess Alembert of France and then the Kings of
> Aragon, though Princess Jimena of Aragon. The Ornelas are direct
descedants
> of Ramiro III, King of Leon. Im also having this problem with other noble
> lines, but Im not sure whether just to except what has been established or
> keep searching. Im assuming the Nobility kept good records i suppose. Can
> anyone help me, Im really confused. What would you do? Thanks.
> > — — — — — — — — — — — — —
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> >

 
Posted : 18/06/2007 3:30 pm
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I descend from the ornelas family, Do you know who the parents of Alvaro Ornelas’ wife petronila orosco are?
Can you please send me the info.
I have done extensive research on the connections of european royalty, the lara, mendoza and guzman familes To the families of los altos de jalisco and I missed the ornelas connection.
When you reesearch european royalty over the internet be careful of errors. I have found many of their conclusions to be unreliable.
Our work is only as good as our sources. Genealogists are like computers. Input good information and you get good results. Input feces and you get toilet paper. and you would only use that hard paper in an emergency.
R.A.Ricci

 
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