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arturoramos

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Maria:

I am not sure, but I don’t believe there were legal sailings from Genova to Mexico in the 1500s. Spain maintained a strict trade monopoly with its colonies and I would imagine that would imply that non-Spanish ships could not sail to her colonies… I will investigate. That does not necessarily mean they did not. I know there were lots of illegal sailings especially to smuggle out goods and smuggle in people who could not get licensias (Jews).

Here is a Lomeli from AER. It is the woman with the name Lomeli but taking maternal last names was common in the 1500s.

Archivo Archivo General de Indias
Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.1,E.2939
Título JUAN BAPTISTA VACO
Alcance y Contenido JUAN BAPTISTA VACO [sic], hijo de Gonzalo Vasto [sic] y de María Espíndola, marido de Isabel Lomeli, natural de Génova.
Nivel de Descripción Unidad Documental Simple
Fecha(s) [c] 1526-08-30
Signatura(s) PASAJEROS,L.1,E.2939
Volumen
Productor(es) Información de Contexto
Unidades Relacionadas
Por Procedencia CONTRATACION,5536,L.2,F.33

Posted : 19/07/2006 11:10 am

arturoramos

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Maria:

Here is a Lomeli from AER. It is the woman with the name Lomeli but taking maternal last names was common in the 1500s.

Posted : 19/07/2006 11:10 am

arturoramos

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Enter “LOMELIN” in the first search field and then add another search field and enter “PASAJERO” These are just the listings for passengers to Mexico. There are many more mostly to Cartagena de Indias (Colombia).

Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.5,E.3166
Título BRIGIDA LOMELIN
Alcance y Contenido BRIGIDA LOMELIN, natural de Tudela, hija de Juan Martínez y de Catalina Lomelin, a Nueva España, como criada de don Antonio Velázquez de Bazán.
Nivel de Descripción Unidad Documental Simple
Fecha(s) [c] 1571-07-06
Signatura(s) PASAJEROS,L.5,E.3166

Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.11,E.353
Título LICENCIADO PEDRO DE BARRIENTOS LOMELIN
Alcance y Contenido LICENCIADO PEDRO DE BARRIENTOS LOMELIN, Racionero de la Catedral de México, a Nueva España. Información y licencia en CONTRATACION,5395,N.59
Nivel de Descripción Unidad Documental Simple
Fecha(s) [c] 1626-07-06
Signatura(s) PASAJEROS,L.11,E.353

Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16404.42.3.188//CONTRATACION,5395,N.59
Título PEDRO DE BARRIENTOS LOMELIN
Alcance y Contenido Expediente de información y licencia de pasajero a indias del licenciado Pedro de Barrientos Lomelín, racionero de la catedral de México, con sus criados Juan de la Cruz y Pedro Rodríguez, éste natural y vecino de Sevilla, hijo de Antonio Rodríguez y de Mariana Cid, a Nueva España. Fecha de la licencia
Nivel de Descripción Unidad Documental Compuesta
Fecha(s) [f] 1626-07-03
Signatura(s) CONTRATACION,5395,N.59

Código de referencia ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.4,E.1726
Título JOSE LOMELIN
Alcance y Contenido JOSE LOMELIN, natural de Génova, vecino de México, hijo de Domingo Lomelín y de Margarita, a Nueva España, de donde es vecino.
Nivel de Descripción Unidad Documental Simple
Fecha(s) [c] 1562-01-26
Signatura(s) PASAJEROS,L.4,E.1726

Posted : 19/07/2006 11:18 am

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Posted : 19/07/2006 11:18 am

mariauhlenburg

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Rose,
I have a Carlos Lomelin born about 1584 in Genova, Genova, Italy and married to a Maria Benavides in about 1609, Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico. They had one daughter named Juana Lomelin who married Francisco Gutierrez Rubio about 1651, in Nochistlan, Zacatecas. Francisco was born about 1610 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco.

Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg (Sacramento, CA)
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Rose Hardy wrote:

Does anyone know of any books, websites, passenger ship records regarding Italians immigrating to Mexico say during the late 1500’s to early 1800’s? I’ve checked out the Archivos Espanoles En Red website: http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp to see if I could find my Italian ancestors who settled in Mexico, via Spain, but have come up with a big zero. I have a copy of the book ” La Emigracion Castellana y Leonesa al Nuevo Mundo 1517-1700″ by Maria del Carmen Martinez Martinez and nothing in there as well.

The surnames involved are Lomellin, Lomelli (Carlos Lomellini about 1600, children and grandchildren in Nochistlan, Zacatecas) and Durazzo around Hermosillo, San Miguel de Horcasitas, Sonora in the late 1700’s to early 1800’s.

Thanks
Rose
Fresno, CA

Posted : 19/07/2006 4:00 pm

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Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg (Sacramento, CA)
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Rose Hardy wrote:

Thanks
Rose
Fresno, CA

Posted : 19/07/2006 4:00 pm

Rose Hardy

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Maria

I am related through Carlos’ and Maria Benavides son, Domingo and his son
Nicolas:

Lomelin, Nicolas
The son of Domingo Lomelin and Juana de Mendoza. He was baptized 27 July
1656 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas. He married Juana de Alba, the daughter of
Marcos de Pedrosa and Maria de Nava on 5 February 1682 in Santa Maria de los
Lagos, Jalisco. He died 18 November 1693 in Santa Maria de los Lagos,
Jalisco.

Lomelin, Matiana
The daughter of Nicolas Lomelin and Juana de Alba (Pedrosa). She was
baptized 30 October 1683 in Santa Maria de los Lagos, Jalisco. She married
Joseph Romo de Vivar, the son of Pedro Romo de Vivar and Lorenza Ruiz de
Esparza on 15 February 1699 in Santa Maria de los Lagos, Jalisco.

This is my relation:

Carlos Lomelin>Domingo Lomelin>Nicolas Lomelin>Mathiana de Lomellin>Maria
Basilia Romo>Joseph Manuel Gonzales De Hermosillo>Thadeo Xaimes
(Jaymes)>Joaquin Jayme>Maria de la Cruz Jayme>Maria Antonia Ortiz> Francisca
Pisana>Maria Nieves Munis>Romanita Rodriquez Ramos>Antonio Ramon
Gonzales>Anthony Richard Gonzales>Rosanne Gonzales

I am related to the Romo de Vivar family 3 times and so far the Gonzales de
Hermosillos’s twice.

Rose
Fresno, CA

Posted : 21/07/2006 2:30 am

Rose Hardy

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Maria

I am related through Carlos’ and Maria Benavides son, Domingo and his son
Nicolas:

This is my relation:

I am related to the Romo de Vivar family 3 times and so far the Gonzales de
Hermosillos’s twice.

Rose
Fresno, CA

Posted : 21/07/2006 2:30 am

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I am compiling the geneaological data on the lomelini from Italy to the branch that went to spain. It is a lot of material that I am going through and won’t be finished until the end of the summer 09 .I will include pictures. I have compiled hidalgo’s genealogical tree and traced his 2 lomeli lines. He descends from both lomeli brothers carlos and luis.

R.A.Ricci

Posted : 16/02/2009 12:04 am

JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOME…

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Hello R.A.Ricci
I am very interested in the Lomelini branch. May I get some of the
information that you have.
I have information until Carlos Lomelini, may you share the information from
his parents,gp and ggp of Carlos, and if when you finish your research are
you going to make some publication? I would love to get it.
Juan Cristobal Villalobos Lomelin

—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de R.A.Ricci
Enviado el: Domingo, 15 de Febrero de 2009 06:05 p.m.
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] lomelini

I am compiling the geneaological data on the lomelini from Italy to the
branch that went to spain. It is a lot of material that I am going through
and won’t be finished until the end of the summer 09 .I will include
pictures. I have compiled hidalgo’s genealogical tree and traced his 2
lomeli lines. He descends from both lomeli brothers carlos and luis.

R.A.Ricci

Posted : 16/02/2009 3:00 am

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