Abram

You are fortunate to have ancestors from Nochistlan for two reasons: (1) the state of the church records is excellent, and (2) the baptisms have been extracted to 1875, and marriages to 1885.

Go to https://www.familysearch.org/

In the window you will see boxes for first and last name, Enter “Jauregui” in the last name box.

Immediately below this is a line that begins with “Search by Life Events”; click on marriage. A new line will open asking for a location, and a date range.

For location, type “nochistlan, zacatecas, mexico,” it is not necessary to capitalize the place name. Accents are not required.

If you press search at this point, you will get more than 49,000 results. Too many. So you need to narrow down the search. From the search parameter window on the left of the screen, type in a date range (try 1870-1885) which would seem reasonable for this couple based on other information you have. This will give a smaller list, but still way too many.

You can narrow down the search by clicking the check box next to the location name. This means the location must match exactly. This will give a much shorter list of all the Jauregui marriages in the 1870-85 period in Nochistlan.

If you are sure you have the name right, enter the first name. Use “Encarnacion”, you don’t need “Jose”. You could also do this from the beginning, but you then won’t get a sense of how many families there are with this name.

With “Encarnacion Jauregui” in this period you will get four results. Two for Ma. Enacarnacion Jauregui and two for Jose Encarnacion Jauregui. Click on the little triangle at the far right of the record will give a summary; clicking on the name itself will give you the full record.

Jose’s is the one you want. With the information here, you can go to the digitized records, and view and download it. Since there are two with marriages to the same person, you’ve got to figure out why.

Don’t take the Family Search index as absolute truth! You absolutely must look at the original record.

In a normal marriage, the record will say “case y vele.” Sometimes a record will say “case y no vele,” the second part of the ceremony is performed later. This could account for two dates. However, there may be other ecclesiastical reasons for this. There may be an annotation on the records that explains it; or there may not.

When you go to the digitized records, they are in date order, so the record should not be hard to find. Often, but not always, the name of couple is written in the marriage. This makes it a bit easier.

There was another posting today about someone wanting to use a professional genealogist. Sometimes, this can be helpful (and expensive!), but there is a lot of satisfaction in finding the records yourself. Besides, when you have success, which you will (trust me on this!) it is a lot of fun!

Good luck!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Abram Flores
how do i get to the idigitized records, and view and download it.

Abram,

To get to the digitized records for Nochistlan Zacatecas, go to the following address:
www.familysearch.org, click on USA, CANADA and MEXICO, >click on Mexico, > click on Mexico Catholic Church Records-Browse Images, 21 Dec, 2010 >click on Browse through 16,596,760 Images, > click on Zacatecas

>click on Nochistlan Zacatecas. Bookmark this page onto your desk top.

This will bring you to a page with the index for the type of register you are searching for and for the range of the years such as Bautismos/Baptisms, Confirmaciones/Confirmations, Entierros/Burials, Informacion Matrimonial/These are marriage investigations. Matrimonios/Marriage Records and Procesos Matrimoniales/Marriage processes.

I hope this helps you.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca.

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Abram Flores
how do i get to the idigitized records, and view and download it.

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F6805272
put this in your address bar and it should give you all of Zacatecas, just chose the city you want..
good luck
Linda in Everett

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From: Alicia Carrillo
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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Using Family Search

Abram,

To get to the digitized records for Nochistlan Zacatecas, go to the following address:
www.familysearch.org, click on USA, CANADA and MEXICO, >click on Mexico, > click on Mexico Catholic Church Records-Browse Images, 21 Dec, 2010 >click on Browse through 16,596,760 Images, > click on Zacatecas

>click on Nochistlan Zacatecas. Bookmark this page onto your desk top.

This will bring you to a page with the index for the type of register you are searching for and for the range of the years such as Bautismos/Baptisms, Confirmaciones/Confirmations, Entierros/Burials, Informacion Matrimonial/These are marriage investigations. Matrimonios/Marriage Records and Procesos Matrimoniales/Marriage processes.

I hope this helps you.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca.

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Abram Flores
how do i get to the idigitized records, and view and download it.

actually I should have said just click on this address and then add it to your favorites list
Linda

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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Using Family Search

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F6805272
put this in your address bar and it should give you all of Zacatecas, just chose the city you want..
good luck
Linda in Everett

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From: Alicia Carrillo
To: “research@nuestrosranchos.org”
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Using Family Search

Abram,

To get to the digitized records for Nochistlan Zacatecas, go to the following address:
www.familysearch.org, click on USA, CANADA and MEXICO, >click on Mexico, > click on Mexico Catholic Church Records-Browse Images, 21 Dec, 2010 >click on Browse through 16,596,760 Images, > click on Zacatecas

>click on Nochistlan Zacatecas. Bookmark this page onto your desk top.

This will bring you to a page with the index for the type of register you are searching for and for the range of the years such as Bautismos/Baptisms, Confirmaciones/Confirmations, Entierros/Burials, Informacion Matrimonial/These are marriage investigations. Matrimonios/Marriage Records and Procesos Matrimoniales/Marriage processes.

I hope this helps you.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca.

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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:20 AM
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Abram Flores
how do i get to the idigitized records, and view and download it.

Abram Flores
thank you alicia thank you linda.Is there any way where i can skip all those thousands of records and just get to the one i need?

Abram Flores
okay so i was looking through the 1874-1880 marriage records and i was looking through the list of names and i found felipe armas and leonarda lozano so from that point on how do i find their record of marriage without going page by page?

Abram

Records are in chronological order. If the record you need is in the middle of the date range of the volume, start your search in about the middle. Then move several images forward or back, depending how far the date of record you are are viewing is from the one you want, make either larger or smaller jumps. It just a matter of approximation and getting closer until you are at the right spot..

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Flores
I was referring to the marriage records i wanted to find felipe armas and leonarda lozano marriage records so i clicked on 1874-1880 and their were tons of names in alphabet order and so i went to the f section and i found felipe armas married to leonarda lozano but from their on what was i suppose to do look through thousands of record page by page to find them.

I misunderstood your question.

The indexes may give you a record number: the first record in the volume is 1, next is 2, and so on. You just need to jump through the film until you get the one you need. Some films will have more than one volume of records, so don’t make too big of a jump.

Some indexes will give you a folio number. That is, the front and back have the same number (this is sort of like numbering every other page of a book). The front will sometimes be identified as “21f” and the back as “21v”. F = frente, and F = vuelta.

Some indexes will be by actual page number (this is the more modern records).

The first page of the index should identify the system they used.

Ocassionally there will be an error in the index. So, if you don’t find your record, look a few pages before or after.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Abram Flores
It’s okay so where i found this info was on familysearch.org not nuestrosranchos.?

Look for the date!!! is the fastest way of doing it!

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM, wrote:

> Abram Flores
> okay so i was looking through the 1874-1880 marriage records and i was
> looking through the list of names and i found felipe armas and leonarda
> lozano so from that point on how do i find their record of marriage
> without going page by page?
>

you make me smile.. if you find a way not to the grunt work let me know.. Sometimes we get lucky enough to find someone who’s already working that surname or line. I know I have my files on Rootsweb.com complete with the film  and page number on the later ones to help people like you who don’t have the time to go page to page like I do..
Linda in Everett

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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 7:13 PM
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Abram Flores
thank you alicia thank you linda.Is there any way where i can skip all those thousands of records and just get to the one i need?

Abram,

I don’t know of another way to do it. Sometimes you get lucky or your have very precise information that leads you very close to the desired pages. Most of us do what we have to do to get the info and if it means page by page, well that’s exactly what we have to do. Wish I could tell you otherwise. Enjoy the learning process. Those who are not willing to do the work just give up and quit genealogy.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 7:52 PM
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Abram Flores
okay so i was looking through the 1874-1880 marriage records and i was looking through the list of names and i found felipe armas and leonarda lozano  so from that point on how do i find their record of marriage without going page by page?