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(@mendezdetorres)
Posts: 1615
Noble Member
 

Hi Emilie,
When you edit a person next to each box on the right side youll find a “S” click on thoseand you can add a new source.
ex.

Name:Sex: BirthPlace: S Christening
Place: S
Regards,Daniel
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> From: auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:39:43 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
>
> Daniel,
>
>
>
> I am guilty too of entering info into my PAF program, and now I am trying to cite my sources. Where in PAF do I enter sources?
>
>
>
> Emilie
>
>> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:27:28 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>>
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>> I thought I got it from Jacinta’s defuncion record but I guess not, I knowshe was listed as Estrada at least once. IT must be in the recordsofbaptisms for her children. Just this year I started citing and going back to cite EVERY SINGLE detail in all my records, I had the tendenancy to enter data w/o citing (prob. Laziness) but learned the importance! Now it haunts me to this very day when I see records and dont recall where I found it. Won’t make the same mistake!
>> Regards,Daniel
>>

 
Posted : 14/03/2010 1:00 am
(@jaime-alvarado)
Posts: 283
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Daniel,
You were right, Jasinta is listed as “de Hortega i Estrada” in the christening of her son Ignacio. The record reads as follows.

(al margen) Ignacio esp[añol]
En la Villa de Aguascalien[tes] en beinte i nuebe del mes de Agosto año de mil seiscientos i ochenta i cinco en la Parroquial baptise i puse los Santos Olios a Ignacio español de hedad de beinte y siete dias, hijo lexitimo de Joseph Diaz y de Jasinta de Hortega i Estrada, fueron sus padrinos Nicolas de Aguilera y Maria Dias de Anda les adverti las obligaciones y cognacion espiritual y lo firme (rubrica) D. Baltazar Fernando Altamirano de Castilla

I think that with this evidence, Bill’s hypothesis is very strong.

Sincerely

Jaime

 
Posted : 15/03/2010 12:45 am
(@mendezdetorres)
Posts: 1615
Noble Member
 

Phew….thanks!!! you helped me find what I found along time ago!Regards,Daniel

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> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:31:08 +0000
> From: alvaradj@comcast.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
>
> Daniel,
> You were right, Jasinta is listed as “de Hortega i Estrada” in the christening of her son Ignacio. The record reads as follows.
>
>
>
> (al margen) Ignacio esp[añol]
> En la Villa de Aguascalien[tes] en beinte i nuebe del mes de Agosto año de mil seiscientos i ochenta i cinco en la Parroquial baptise i puse los Santos Olios a Ignacio español de hedad de beinte y siete dias, hijo lexitimo de Joseph Diaz y de Jasinta de Hortega i Estrada, fueron sus padrinos Nicolas de Aguilera y Maria Dias de Anda les adverti las obligaciones y cognacion espiritual y lo firme (rubrica) D. Baltazar Fernando Altamirano de Castilla
>
>
> I think that with this evidence, Bill’s hypothesis is very strong.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
>
> Jaime

 
Posted : 15/03/2010 12:45 am
(@bill-figueroa)
Posts: 514
Honorable Member
 

Daniel, Jaime

I don’t know who the parents of this Juan de Estrada Bocanegra were but I do
know that he married twice. The first time he married Margarita de Ortega
on 26 Feb 1661 (daughter of Francisco Macías Valadez y Jacinta de Ortega)
and when she died he married María de Laris on 09 Dec 1669. Both weddings
took place in Aguascalientes. This is NOT the same Juan de Estrada
Bocanegra who married Theresa de Sandi on 26 Jun 1657 in Aguascalientes.
They were contemporaries and possibly related.

BILL FIGUEROA

—– Original Message —–
From: “Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto”
To: “Patty Hoyos”
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega

This only makes sense! In my notes I had listed Jacinta de Ortega II as
Jacinta de Ortega y Estrada so she did appear sometimes as Estrada and/or
Ortega. I was puzzled for while as to who were her parents! Thanks Bill, BTW
do you know who are the parents of this Juan Estrada-Bocanegra? Is this the
same don Juan who married Teresa Carrillo de Sandi?

Regards,Daniel

 
Posted : 15/03/2010 11:45 pm
(@mendezdetorres)
Posts: 1615
Noble Member
 

I am currently studying the Estrada Bocanegra, I have some good info!Bill, thanks for the info, do you have more info on this Maria de Larisor the death date of Margarita de Ortega, I just found her daughterMargarita (II) baptismal date. Apparently, all the Estrada Bocanegrafrom Los Altos and nearby places (Aguascalientes, Zacatecas etc)come from Andres Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores Rubin.I found that this couple resided in Guadalajara. Then they settledin Los Altos. I might have found a common link between the Enriquez del Castillo and Estrada-Bocanegra family, but I need todo more research. Regards,DanielTo learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saintsplease visit www.mormon.org

> From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:36:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
> Daniel, Jaime
>
> I don’t know who the parents of this Juan de Estrada Bocanegra were but I do
> know that he married twice. The first time he married Margarita de Ortega
> on 26 Feb 1661 (daughter of Francisco Macías Valadez y Jacinta de Ortega)
> and when she died he married María de Laris on 09 Dec 1669. Both weddings
> took place in Aguascalientes. This is NOT the same Juan de Estrada
> Bocanegra who married Theresa de Sandi on 26 Jun 1657 in Aguascalientes.
> They were contemporaries and possibly related.
>
> BILL FIGUEROA
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto”
> To: “Patty Hoyos”
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
>
>
> This only makes sense! In my notes I had listed Jacinta de Ortega II as
> Jacinta de Ortega y Estrada so she did appear sometimes as Estrada and/or
> Ortega. I was puzzled for while as to who were her parents! Thanks Bill, BTW
> do you know who are the parents of this Juan Estrada-Bocanegra? Is this the
> same don Juan who married Teresa Carrillo de Sandi?
>
> Regards,Daniel
>
>

 
Posted : 16/03/2010 3:00 am
(@Anonymous)
Posts: 0
New Member Guest
 

Congratulations. I have been stuck on the estrada bocanegra for years.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

—–Original Message—–
From: Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:55:57
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega

I am currently studying the Estrada Bocanegra, I have some good info!Bill, thanks for the info, do you have more info on this Maria de Larisor the death date of Margarita de Ortega, I just found her daughterMargarita (II) baptismal date. Apparently, all the Estrada Bocanegrafrom Los Altos and nearby places (Aguascalientes, Zacatecas etc)come from Andres Estrada-Bocanegra and Luisa Flores Rubin.I found that this couple resided in Guadalajara. Then they settledin Los Altos. I might have found a common link between the Enriquez del Castillo and Estrada-Bocanegra family, but I need todo more research. Regards,DanielTo learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saintsplease visit www.mormon.org

> From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:36:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
> Daniel, Jaime
>
> I don’t know who the parents of this Juan de Estrada Bocanegra were but I do
> know that he married twice. The first time he married Margarita de Ortega
> on 26 Feb 1661 (daughter of Francisco Macías Valadez y Jacinta de Ortega)
> and when she died he married María de Laris on 09 Dec 1669. Both weddings
> took place in Aguascalientes. This is NOT the same Juan de Estrada
> Bocanegra who married Theresa de Sandi on 26 Jun 1657 in Aguascalientes.
> They were contemporaries and possibly related.
>
> BILL FIGUEROA
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto”
> To: “Patty Hoyos”
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jasinta de Ortega
>
>
>
> This only makes sense! In my notes I had listed Jacinta de Ortega II as
> Jacinta de Ortega y Estrada so she did appear sometimes as Estrada and/or
> Ortega. I was puzzled for while as to who were her parents! Thanks Bill, BTW
> do you know who are the parents of this Juan Estrada-Bocanegra? Is this the
> same don Juan who married Teresa Carrillo de Sandi?
>
> Regards,Daniel
>
>

 
Posted : 16/03/2010 7:00 am
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