Hi George, you make a good point, well I think the other 20 children are missing, you could fit in many kids, there are huge gaps especially with Gertrudis Navarro she could have easily had another 8 or 9. As well as the other Gertrudis another 4 or 5. Same thing with Antonia another 4 or so. Don Juan sounds like the guy who had a child every year, I mean 45 he would have to have one every year, unless he had twins several times. another possibility. You could try looking at other “hot spots” where the Spanish of Aguas could go, a popular one, I have stumbled upon is PINOS, ZACATECAS. For some reason you find several of the early settlers going up there. Others include the rest of Aguas, sometimes northern Los Altos usually Lagos or Teocaltiche seem the common places. Also try Nochistlán. But to save time, I guess looking at the “Defunciones” would be helpful too in Aguas, since Id imagine they burried their stillborn (prob had some) where they lived (Aguas) . -Daniel
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You do not have to have a child every year or twins to have a large number of children if you are male. When people hear that there were 8 kids in my family they are surprised that it is so large. I do not tell them that My biological father has 35 children from different women. He was from Jalisco.He had many of these children out of wedlock when he was still married to my mother. I know of one half sister that was a few months older than me so we were in the belly at the same time for many months. I have had strangers walk up to me and tell me that they were my sibling or niece.
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Sent: Tue 4/7/2009 10:46 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan de Santiago or de Santiago Escobar
Hi George, you make a good point, well I think the other 20 children are missing, you could fit in many kids, there are huge gaps especially with Gertrudis Navarro she could have easily had another 8 or 9. As well as the other Gertrudis another 4 or 5. Same thing with Antonia another 4 or so. Don Juan sounds like the guy who had a child every year, I mean 45 he would have to have one every year, unless he had twins several times. another possibility. You could try looking at other “hot spots” where the Spanish of Aguas could go, a popular one, I have stumbled upon is PINOS, ZACATECAS. For some reason you find several of the early settlers going up there. Others include the rest of Aguas, sometimes northern Los Altos usually Lagos or Teocaltiche seem the common places. Also try Nochistlán. But to save time, I guess looking at the “Defunciones” would be helpful too in Aguas, since Id imagine they burried their stillborn (prob had some) where they lived (Aguas) . -Daniel
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Richard,
The case of Juan de Santiago Escobar is unusual because he had fortyfive
(45) LEGITIMATE children. None of these were out of wedlock. He married
three times and lived a long life, probably well into his eighties.
Bill Figueroa
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan de Santiago or de Santiago Escobar
You do not have to have a child every year or twins to have a large number
of children if you are male. When people hear that there were 8 kids in my
family they are surprised that it is so large. I do not tell them that My
biological father has 35 children from different women. He was from
Jalisco.He had many of these children out of wedlock when he was still
married to my mother. I know of one half sister that was a few months older
than me so we were in the belly at the same time for many months. I have had
strangers walk up to me and tell me that they were my sibling or niece.
Funny, I’ve been trying to find the link back to the Santiago’s on my paternal line forever… it’s probably him… 🙂
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From: Bill Figueroa
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:07:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan de Santiago or de Santiago Escobar
Richard,
The case of Juan de Santiago Escobar is unusual because he had fortyfive (45) LEGITIMATE children. None of these were out of wedlock. He married three times and lived a long life, probably well into his eighties.
Bill Figueroa
—– Original Message —– From: “Ricci, Richard”
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan de Santiago or de Santiago Escobar
You do not have to have a child every year or twins to have a large number of children if you are male. When people hear that there were 8 kids in my family they are surprised that it is so large. I do not tell them that My biological father has 35 children from different women. He was from Jalisco.He had many of these children out of wedlock when he was still married to my mother. I know of one half sister that was a few months older than me so we were in the belly at the same time for many months. I have had strangers walk up to me and tell me that they were my sibling or niece.
