Lorenza Tiscareno
I have my 9th great grandmother, Lorenza Tescareno born about 1685 and married to Nicolas Gomes.
I have my 9th great grandmother, Lorenza Tescareno born about 1685 and married to Nicolas Gomes. Their daughters are Marina, Antonia, Maria de los Dolores and Josepha born in Pinos, Zacatecas in the early 1700’s. If anyone has iinfo on this line I would greatly appreciate any help.
Your 9th great-grandmother María Lorenza Tiscareño de Huerta was baptized 31 Aug 1683 at Parroquia de la Asunción in Aguascalientes. She was 15 days old when baptized, and thus born on 16 Aug 1683. Lorenza was the daughter of Francisco Tiscareño, mestizo, and María González de Huerta, also mestiza. Her father Francisco Tiscareño was the natural son of Capt. Juan Tiscareño with an unmarried woman (name unknown), probably a local indian because Francisco was said to be a mestizo. Francisco was born out of wedlock while Juan Tiscareño was still single, before he married Isabel Romo de Vivar. This is explained in the following excerpt from Juan Tiscareño’s final will and testament:
“iten declaro para el descargo de mi conciencia que antes del Primero matrimonio tube un hijo natural llamado Francisco Tiscareño hijo de mujer soltera i libre para contraer matrimonio sin impedimentos declarolo asi para que conste i en esta conformidad mando se le de del remaniente del quinto de mis bienes por uso de alimento que assi le dejo i permite la lei Real de todo por averme servido mucho y aiudadome a ganar parte del caudal que assi he tenido de que he dado a mis hijos lo que llebo expressado…”
Nicolás Gómez was the son of Blas Gómez and María de Silva. No additional information about them. I have two daughters for Nicolás Gómez and Lorenza Tiscareño: 1) María de los Dolores, b. 1711 and 2) María Josepha b. 1714. What information do you have on Marina and Antonia?
BILL FIGUEROA
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lorenza Tiscareno
I have my 9th great grandmother, Lorenza Tescareno born about 1685 and married to Nicolas Gomes. Their daughters are Marina, Antonia, Maria de los Dolores and Josepha born in Pinos, Zacatecas in the early 1700’s. If anyone has iinfo on this line I would greatly appreciate any help.
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Thank you for the information!
I have Marina baptized August 4, 1707 and married Oct. 6, 1721 to Joseph Francisco Sanches Mejorada. FHL Marriage source 1096163/120 Baptism source 1095294/
Antonia was baptized December 4, 1709 and married Luis Sanches Mejorada February 4, 1722 all in Pinos, Zacatecas. FHL Baptism source number 1095294/193. Padrino Francisco Sanches
Carolyn
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Bill,
Where do I find the records for the info? I did a search on FamilySearch but came up empty!
Carolyn
Carolyn,
Apparently this record was not indexed. You can see the actual record of Lorenza’s baptism at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12047-91323-38?cc=1502404&wc=M99K-S5B:853132137
It reads as follows:
Al margen: “Lorenza espla.”
“En la Villa de Aguascalientes en treinta i un dias del mes de Agosto año de mill seis-
cientos i ochenta i tres, en la Parroquial baptise i puse los santos olios a Lorenza espa-
ñola de hedad de quinse dias hija legitima de Franco. de Tiscareño y de Maria de
Huerta vecinos de esta Jurisdicion, fueron sus Padrinos Andres Muños y Loren-
sa Ruiz de Esparsa, les adverti la obligacion i cognacion espiritual i lo firme =
D. Manuel Altamirano de Castilla”
Lorenza had two brothers, Joseph and Juan, and a sister, Juana Tiscareño de Huerta.
Let me know if you need additional information.
BILL FIGUEROA
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Lorenza
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Bill,
Where do I find the records for the info? I did a search on FamilySearch but came up empty!
Carolyn
Carolyn Gomez Duran
After posting my last request I found records for Lorenza and Joseph. I now have a question! On Joseph’s record Aguascalientes 1681 source number 299422/136, it states “Guardian AP Francisco Cristoval Romo”. Is that a grandparent?
Thanks for your help!
Carolyn
Carolyn,
The record actually says “en caso de necesidad echo el Agua el P Guardian frai Christoval Romo” which means that the child was in danger of dying so the priest-on-watch Fray Cristobal Romo baptised him (“le echó el agua bendita”). What you thought read “AP Guardian” actually reads “el P. Guardian” meaning “el Padre Guardián” .
BILL FIGUEROA
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From: casavolver@lpbroadband.net
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:22 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Tiscareno
Carolyn Gomez Duran
After posting my last request I found records for Lorenza and Joseph. I now have a question! On Joseph’s record Aguascalientes 1681 source number 299422/136, it states “Guardian AP Francisco Cristoval Romo”. Is that a grandparent?
Thanks for your help!
Carolyn
Carolyn Gomez Duran
I will get better at reading the records. I hope he made it!!
Muchisimas gracias!!
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