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Miguel Hidalgo yCostilla- Eduardo

Esther Jordan Lopez · 2009-11-18T15:45:05Z

Hi, Eduardo, I apologize for not checking sources. I tend to get lazy sometimes. Will you help me with a question about Portezuelo, Jalisco? I can only find civil registry through FHC. Hi, Eduardo, I apologize for not checking sources. I tend to get lazy sometimes. Will you help me with a question about Portezuelo, Jalisco? I can only find civil registry through FHC. Are there are sources you might know of that cover Portezuelo? I know La Barca has some records from Portezuelo but I haven't seen a whole lot. Do I need to actually visit Portezuelo to do my research. Any ideas? Thank you, I appreciate any information you may give me. --Esther Jordan Lopez Does anyone have a copy of the actual christening record for Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla? I have been searching for his christening record but have come up empty handed. I am aware of the transcript of about 1829 that is found online but I would like to look at the copy of the original, or if possible eventually the original. Does anyone have a copy or know where I can find one? Unfortunately the Genealogical Society of Utah did not film the dates of his christening.

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Lamomexico

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My name is Daniel Briones,

I have a Francisco Cabeza de Vaca married to a Josefa Lopez in Ixtlan, Michoacan. I was wondering if you think that these Cabeza de Vacas are possibly related?

Thanks,

Daniel Briones

> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:45:36 -0700
> From: merazrafael@yahoo.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] vaca family
>
> Ok Thanks When I find out Miguel Vaca parents names I will let you know.
>
> Rafael Meraz Madrigal
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Esther Jordan
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 6:57:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] vaca family
>
> I don’t know if we connect yet. I do have a Francisco Vaca (aka Cabesa de
> Baca) b. about 1758 married to Lugarda Cuevas (aka De la Cueva) b. abt 1761,
> married 12 February 1781, San Francisco de Asis, Ixtlan, Michoacan.
>
> Some of their children were:
> Jose Rafhael Cavesa Cueva, b. 11 Jan. 1796, San Francisco, Tamazula de
> Gordiano, Jalisco (C603753 1783-1804, film #0225985.)
>
> *Vicente Vaca, b. 1797 (my direct line). *I have info for them but I need
> to confirm some dates.
>
> Jose (Josse) Miguel Salome Cabeza Cuevas, ch. 7 July 1789, San Agustin,
> Jacona de Placarte, Michoacan
>
> I was hoping to work on this line but just haven’t had time to do so. Maybe
> this would be a good time and start working on it. 🙂
>
> I’ll keep your names and see if I find anything.
>
> Esther Lopez Jordan
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, wrote:
>
> > Esther,
> >
> > Miguel Vaca and Luz Cazarez are 3rd Great Grandparents, they lived in Ario
> > De Rayon, Michocan before moving to Coalcoman, Michoacan in the 1870’s. Ario
> > de Rayon is close to La Barca could we be related ?
> >
> > Rafael Meraz
> >
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Posted : 20/03/2011 5:15 am

RafaelMeraz

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Daniel,

I just started my research on my Vaca line so I dont know but Ixtlan and Ario de
Rayon are close so I think that they are related.

Rafael Meraz

________________________________
From: Daniel Briones
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 9:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] vaca family

My name is Daniel Briones,

I have a Francisco Cabeza de Vaca married to a Josefa Lopez in Ixtlan,
Michoacan. I was wondering if you think that these Cabeza de Vacas are possibly
related?

Thanks,

Daniel Briones

Posted : 20/03/2011 6:15 pm

RafaelMeraz

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While researching my Vaca line I have found that I too am a descendant of Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas. I am a descendant of theirs through their son Miguel Vaca who married Dolores Ochoa in Ixtlan in 1822.

Rafael Meraz

Posted : 06/07/2011 3:02 am

Esther Jordan Lopez

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Posts: 173

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Topic starter

Rafael, Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas are my direct
descendants; I do need to get confirmation for Rosendo Vaca who married my
gggrandmother, Anastacia Velasquez. All I have is that he was killed before
my ggrandmother Maria Guadalupe Vaca Velasquez was born. I have an original
birth certificate for my ggrandmother and it has all these names that
connect them.
Does that mean we are cousins?
-Esther Jordan Lopez

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, wrote:

> While researching my Vaca line I have found that I too am a descendant of
> Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas. I am a descendant of theirs
> through their son Miguel Vaca who married Dolores Ochoa in Ixtlan in 1822.
> Rafael Meraz

Posted : 06/07/2011 4:00 am

RafaelMeraz

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Yes, we are distant cousins. Have you found Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas marriage ?
I have looked for it in the date given but could not find it. I have a photo of my 2nd Great grandmother Maria Vaca Verduzco.
Rafael Meraz

From: Esther Jordan
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I have found a connection !!

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, wrote:

Posted : 06/07/2011 5:00 am

mendezdetorres

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I have a Jose Miguel Salome Cabeza de Vaca baptized in San Agustin, Jacona de Plancarte, Michoacan
on 7 Jul 1799 parents are Francisco Cabeza de Vaca and Lugarda Cuevas.

They also had Jose Rafael Cabeza de Vaca baptized in San Francisco, Tamazula de Gordiano, Jalisco
on 11 Jan 1796. They married 12 Feb 1781 San Francisco de Asis, Ixtlan, Michoacan, Mexico.

How far have you traced it? They might very well be from Zamora, Michoacan, where my paternal family
lived for two centuries.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Posted : 06/07/2011 6:30 am

mendezdetorres

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The Cabeza de Vaca were a prominant family in Zamora, Michoacan as early as the beginning of
the XVII century. By birth they were and are today hijosdalgo. A family lore that I was told was
the King of Castilla, I believe it was it was one of the Alfonsos in the XIII century were traveling on a path.
So to not get lost the king commanded the man to kill the cow and remove the head and set it on the path.
During the reconquista the family became hijosdalgos and took on the name Cabeza de Vaca. Similar stories like those
of the Vargas Machuca family.

Daniel Méndez Camino

Posted : 06/07/2011 6:45 am

Armando

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Hello Daniel,

The surname was granted to Martín Alhaja, a shephard, who aided the
Castilian King Alfonso VIII during the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa in 1212
A.D. Alhaja, who knew the area, placed a cow skull on the road that led to
the battlefield, an unguarded pass in the Sierra Moreno. The Spanish
Christian King surprised the Moorish army and defeated them. This was the
first significant victory for the Christian Spanish during their reconquest
of Spain. He was awarded a coat-of-arms that included a cow skulls in its
design.

Armando

2011/7/6 Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

>
> The Cabeza de Vaca were a prominant family in Zamora, Michoacan as early as
> the beginning of
> the XVII century. By birth they were and are today hijosdalgo. A family
> lore that I was told was
> the King of Castilla, I believe it was it was one of the Alfonsos in the
> XIII century were traveling on a path.
> So to not get lost the king commanded the man to kill the cow and remove
> the head and set it on the path.
> During the reconquista the family became hijosdalgos and took on the name
> Cabeza de Vaca. Similar stories like those
> of the Vargas Machuca family.
>
>
>
> Daniel Méndez Camino
>

Posted : 06/07/2011 10:45 am

Esther Jordan Lopez

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Posts: 173

Estimable Member

Topic starter

Rafael, I don’t have photos scanned I can share with you at this time but
hope to have my scanner working soon and I can share a picture or two of my
great grandmother. And if you have your ggrandmother’s scanned picture will
you email it to me?

I guess I had better start working more on that line. I do remember my
grandmother, Librada Vaca de Gutierrez, used to go to Michoacan often.
There were family members living there. I was just 5 years old at the time
so I don’t remember all the stuff I used to hear from her. So Daniel, you
may have just found our ancestor.
-Esther

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Rafael Meraz wrote:

> Yes, we are distant cousins. Have you found Francisco Cabesa de Baca and
> Lugarda Cuevas marriage ?
> I have looked for it in the date given but could not find it. I have a
> photo of my 2nd Great grandmother Maria Vaca Verduzco.
> Rafael Meraz
>
> From: Esther Jordan
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2011 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I have found a connection !!
>
> Rafael, Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas are my direct
> descendants; I do need to get confirmation for Rosendo Vaca who married my
> gggrandmother, Anastacia Velasquez. All I have is that he was killed
> before
> my ggrandmother Maria Guadalupe Vaca Velasquez was born. I have an
> original
> birth certificate for my ggrandmother and it has all these names that
> connect them.
> Does that mean we are cousins?
> -Esther Jordan Lopez
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:02 PM, wrote:
>
> > While researching my Vaca line I have found that I too am a descendant of
> > Francisco Cabesa de Baca and Lugarda Cuevas. I am a descendant of theirs
> > through their son Miguel Vaca who married Dolores Ochoa in Ixtlan in
> 1822.
> > Rafael Meraz
> > — — — — — — — — — — — — —
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Posted : 06/07/2011 1:30 pm

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