Greetings Grupo,
Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It’s ironic that they often include the parents’ address, but not the grandparents’ names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
— viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And, in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It’s ironic that they often include the parents’ address, but not the grandparents’ names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
— viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Hi Alice,
Here in Los Altos de Jalisco, I’ve found that they only started to mention
the grandparents until the very late 1790’s and early 1800’s. It is rare
when the grandparents were mentioned before these years in this region,
maybe it was a trend that the Catholic Church started to do during this
period for some reason.
What I’ve had to do when I encounter this situation is to only lookup
marriage records.
Saludos
Rick
—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Santos Luna
Enviado el: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:51 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was
told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were
listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And,
in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of
the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It’s ironic that they
often include the parents’ address, but not the grandparents’ names! Can I
expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods,
or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries?
Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
— viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different
places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at
that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in
Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are
never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in
the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or
just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in
later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Rick,
You just never know. I’ve come across marriage entries from the late 1800’s that only mention the fathers of the bride and grooms. I guess when you think of it that way…we’ve come a long way.
Seriously, thanks for your thoughts. We’re all in this together. Alice BB
— rickrod.com@gmail.com wrote:
From: “Rick Rodriguez”
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:00:05 -0600
Hi Alice,
Here in Los Altos de Jalisco, I’ve found that they only started to mention
the grandparents until the very late 1790’s and early 1800’s. It is rare
when the grandparents were mentioned before these years in this region,
maybe it was a trend that the Catholic Church started to do during this
period for some reason.
What I’ve had to do when I encounter this situation is to only lookup
marriage records.
Saludos
Rick
—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Santos Luna
Enviado el: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:51 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was
told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were
listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And,
in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of
the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It’s ironic that they
often include the parents’ address, but not the grandparents’ names! Can I
expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods,
or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries?
Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
— viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different
places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at
that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in
Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are
never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in
the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or
just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in
later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Not to worry, I’m not giving up. These twists and turns only forces one to think outside the box, and that’s a good thing. However, in my personal family search, I’ve yet to find padrinos that were grandparents; aunts and uncles, even priests, yes. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned researching genealogy, it’s to expect the unexpected! Take and thanks again, Alice BB
— mistyriver123@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Santos Luna
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:50:53 -0800 (PST)
Alice, Do not give up. I have found grandparents
in other regions for your time frame. I recall a particular film, that I was told did not list grandparents then, about mid film, the grandparents were listed.
Also, in some cases, I found that the padrinos were the grandparents. And, in some instances, I was able to find the grandparents using the names of the padrinos.
Happy Hunting
/hs
Alessandro, Thank you so much for your response. It’s ironic that they often include the parents’ address, but not the grandparents’ names! Can I expect to see the grandparents mentioned in other regions or time periods, or is the end of the free ride to another generation via baptismal entries? Again, I appreciate your input. Alice BB
— viteliky@hotmail.com wrote:
From: ALESSANDRO VITELA-TOSCANO
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:59:06 +0000
Alice, I found the same situation in the same period of time in different places of Jalisco, I am afraid that was the usual registration method at that time. They registered usually the godparents and parents only.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:42 -0800
> From: alicebb@netscape.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparents
>
> Greetings Grupo,
> Recently I’ve been researching baptismal entries from the mid 1700’s in Asientos and Queretero, and in both situations the child’s grandparents are never mentioned; not just the particular entries I’m interested in, but in the entire book. Is this something I can expect from that time period or just those locations? It was so nice having the grandparents mentioned in later entries. Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB
>
Does anyone have a copy of the actual christening record for Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla? I have been searching for his christening record but have come up empty handed. I am aware of the transcript of about 1829 that is found online but I would like to look at the copy of the original, or if possible eventually the original. Does anyone have a copy or know where I can find one? Unfortunately the Genealogical Society of Utah did not film the dates of his christening. According to the transcript he was baptized in the parish of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos and born in Corralejo. The Hacienda of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos became a town in 1851 and the town is now known as Abasolo.
