Hello there Esther ,
It´s been awhile that you and I have talked . My interest in you mail is through the Saldivar line .
By any chance do you have the migration of the Saldivars that ended up in Nuevo Leon . My connection to them is through my GG Grandmother Maria Quirina Saldivar Gomez married to Candelario Alvarado . They married 26 of Oct. 1844 in the Villa de Santiago , Nuevo Leon .
Best to you ,
Welester
> I have traced my acestry to 2 different rabbis living in Spain before the expulsion. My actestors were members of the Carabajal de Cueva group that landed in Tampico and colonized NE Mexico. One of these lines was through the Saldivar line. The other was through my Morales line. Can’t get more jewish than that.
> —
> Esther A. Herold
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My Sanchez Navarro line goes toMelchora Sanchez Navarro, daughter of Juan Navarro and Maria Rodriguez, daughter of Baltazar Castano de Sosa, brother of Gaspar Castano de Sosa(explored New Mexico and captured by Inquisition) and Inez Rodriguez, daughter of Diego Montemayor and his wife Inez Rodriguez. Diego Montemayor was Carbajal’s Lt Governor.
Castano de SOsa met Carbajal when he landed in Tampico and were his friends and came before him.
I also descend from Melchora’s other sister’s, Beatriz and Inez. Beatriz married (1)Alonso de Sosa Albernoz and had a daughter Ana de Sosa who married a Zaldivar. Inez married a Martinez who I believe came with Carbajal. His dna looks semetic.
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Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from Erlinda Castanon-Long : ————–
Esther, do you know if this is part of your de la Cueva Carabajal line? This record is from Jerez Zacatecas Mexico and the Caldera line goes back to Maria
> Cid Caldera, sister of El Capitan Miguel Caldera.
>
> Marriage: 5 June 1732 in Jerez
> Manuel de la Cueva y Carabajal
> parents: Lasaro de la Cueva and Juana Lopes, deceased
> with: Maria Magdalena Caldera, Espanola
> parents: Joseph Caldera and Alfonsa Ortis
> padrinos: Juan de Medrano and Xabal Roman
> source: church marriage record #0440059
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: “eaherold@att.net”
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 2:08:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jewish Ancestry
> I have traced my acestry to 2 different rabbis living in Spain before the expulsion. My actestors were members of the Carabajal de Cueva group that landed in Tampico and colonized NE Mexico. One of these lines was through the Saldivar line. The other was through my Morales line. Can’t get more jewish
> than that.
> —
> Esther A. Herold
>
> ————– Original message from ferraristeph@gmail.com: ————–
>
>
> > Hello-
> > I have to say that I am so very dissapointed in most of the comments on this
> topic. No one should be attacked or belittled because they are trying to unravel
> > the mystery of who they are.
> > Also there really is no iron clad Jewish DNA, so if one does the research and
> finds that part of themselves then that should be the research that is
> presented. Also I would encourage those who do not understand and call it a
> “fantasy” to do more research with a little more of an open heart BUT it seems
> pretty clear that this group is not capable of that, as demonstrated from the
> last few posts. These posts have not been put up to further our research, in
> fact they have probably disuaded many people reading them to just stop looking
> and feel ashamed, if they have jewish ancestry because of the myth of “clean
> blood”. Well to thoe out there who are still looking -good luck and I am here if
> > anyone wants help.
> >
> > -Miri AKA Myriam, a jew
> >
> >
> > — — — — — — — — — — — — —
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> >
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Luis Carbajal landed at Tampico in the mid 1500s. Most of his line was extinguished by the Inquisition about 1592. I descend from passengers that were with him when he landed. They came ffrom Portugal. SOme of his sisters married but their descendands did not carry the CUeva Carbahal name.
Some of his brothers escaped to Italy but changed their name to Lambrusco.
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Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from Erlinda Castanon-Long : ————–
Esther, do you know if this is part of your de la Cueva Carabajal line? This record is from Jerez Zacatecas Mexico and the Caldera line goes back to Maria
> Cid Caldera, sister of El Capitan Miguel Caldera.
>
> Marriage: 5 June 1732 in Jerez
> Manuel de la Cueva y Carabajal
> parents: Lasaro de la Cueva and Juana Lopes, deceased
> with: Maria Magdalena Caldera, Espanola
> parents: Joseph Caldera and Alfonsa Ortis
> padrinos: Juan de Medrano and Xabal Roman
> source: church marriage record #0440059
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: “eaherold@att.net”
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 2:08:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jewish Ancestry
> I have traced my acestry to 2 different rabbis living in Spain before the expulsion. My actestors were members of the Carabajal de Cueva group that landed in Tampico and colonized NE Mexico. One of these lines was through the Saldivar line. The other was through my Morales line. Can’t get more jewish
> than that.
> —
> Esther A. Herold
>
> ————– Original message from ferraristeph@gmail.com: ————–
>
>
> > Hello-
> > I have to say that I am so very dissapointed in most of the comments on this
> topic. No one should be attacked or belittled because they are trying to unravel
> > the mystery of who they are.
> > Also there really is no iron clad Jewish DNA, so if one does the research and
> finds that part of themselves then that should be the research that is
> presented. Also I would encourage those who do not understand and call it a
> “fantasy” to do more research with a little more of an open heart BUT it seems
> pretty clear that this group is not capable of that, as demonstrated from the
> last few posts. These posts have not been put up to further our research, in
> fact they have probably disuaded many people reading them to just stop looking
> and feel ashamed, if they have jewish ancestry because of the myth of “clean
> blood”. Well to thoe out there who are still looking -good luck and I am here if
> > anyone wants help.
> >
> > -Miri AKA Myriam, a jew
> >
> >
> > — — — — — — — — — — — — —
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
thank you Esther for checking for me.. I appreciate your efforts.
Linda in Marietta
________________________________
From: “eaherold@att.net”
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 11:49:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jewish Ancestry
Luis Carbajal landed at Tampico in the mid 1500s. Most of his line was extinguished by the Inquisition about 1592. I descend from passengers that were with him when he landed. They came ffrom Portugal. SOme of his sisters married but their descendands did not carry the CUeva Carbahal name.
Some of his brothers escaped to Italy but changed their name to Lambrusco.
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from Erlinda Castanon-Long : ————–
Esther, do you know if this is part of your de la Cueva Carabajal line? This record is from Jerez Zacatecas Mexico and the Caldera line goes back to Maria
> Cid Caldera, sister of El Capitan Miguel Caldera.
>
> Marriage: 5 June 1732 in Jerez
> Manuel de la Cueva y Carabajal
> parents: Lasaro de la Cueva and Juana Lopes, deceased
> with: Maria Magdalena Caldera, Espanola
> parents: Joseph Caldera and Alfonsa Ortis
> padrinos: Juan de Medrano and Xabal Roman
> source: church marriage record #0440059
>
>
>
