Jessica,
You’re going to be okay. As others have experienced in the past all I
really require is “communication” . . .when the time comes for me to
send out specific emails to those tha have not sent in their genealogies
and if at that time you receive one, just reply to it and give me a
reply like the one you said below and I’ll give you an extension. My
bark is definitely worst than my bite. I only bite those that do not
reply or communicate at all. There will be plenty of those if past
experience is any guide.
joseph
Jessica Castaneda wrote:
>I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
>research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed.
>Sounds bad but I have a 2 year old, full time job and in about a month will
>have another baby so as much as I want to I can’t seem to find the time to
>dedicate to research. I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information
>and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I
>have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and
>hope that I will not get the axe. I promise to submit info as soon as I find
>the time to do a little research. I thank you for your patience with those
>of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no
>information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy
>learning from all of you.
>
>Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
>
Jessica,
You’re going to be okay. As others have experienced in the past all I
really require is “communication” . . .when the time comes for me to
send out specific emails to those tha have not sent in their genealogies
and if at that time you receive one, just reply to it and give me a
reply like the one you said below and I’ll give you an extension. My
bark is definitely worst than my bite. I only bite those that do not
reply or communicate at all. There will be plenty of those if past
experience is any guide.
joseph
Jessica Castaneda wrote:
>I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
>research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed.
>Sounds bad but I have a 2 year old, full time job and in about a month will
>have another baby so as much as I want to I can’t seem to find the time to
>dedicate to research. I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information
>and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I
>have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and
>hope that I will not get the axe. I promise to submit info as soon as I find
>the time to do a little research. I thank you for your patience with those
>of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no
>information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy
>learning from all of you.
>
>Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
>
Joseph,
I think your new proposed policy is fair to anyone and to you. I appreciate your leadership and your flexibility. The fact of the matter is that quite a number of others do not have either the time, money, or tools to have signicant “posts.” As the years tick by, they may be able to learn from those that do post. Genealogy, like computers and the Internet, are a time sink, and people have other priorities and/or are involved with constantly changing life dramas. We can still all learn from each other. I favor the more liberal requirement for membership.
Sincerely,
Edward Serros
Joseph,
I think your new proposed policy is fair to anyone and to you. I appreciate your leadership and your flexibility. The fact of the matter is that quite a number of others do not have either the time, money, or tools to have signicant “posts.” As the years tick by, they may be able to learn from those that do post. Genealogy, like computers and the Internet, are a time sink, and people have other priorities and/or are involved with constantly changing life dramas. We can still all learn from each other. I favor the more liberal requirement for membership.
Sincerely,
Edward Serros
I am with you all the way, Linda. I just cannot understand the reluctance on the part of some to share their genealogical research. I have made so many new contacts with people that have helped me after I posted my information to WorldConnect via Ancestry World Tree or to the many message boards available. (Although if I knew how to upload gedcoms on my own I could have posted directly to WorldConnect thus bypassing Ancestry.com).
Ancestry.com allows me to use their online genealogy program Family Tree which is user friendly, and I don’t have to buy a program for my computer where it could crash, etc.
I have given some folks new information (new to them) and vice versa, just as we have seen happen in this group. We help each other fill in the blanks and break down the brick walls, and it furthers the enthusiasm for this kind of work. I have instilled in many younger people the interest and passion for this. We are not going to live forever, so if I can help others this way, I consider I have done my part for posterity.
There are very few people who, after I have spent days doing their research at no charge whatsoever, don’t at least e-mail me back to thank me and let me know they got and appreciate the information. I don’t care. At least I feel gratified by the majority who do thank me, and who I know will continue the search. The agradecidos even hold family reunions and share all the info I gave them; I have reunited many clans this way. Some folks have lived in the same town for generations and never knew they were related.
How many instances have we seen where someone has done so much work, hoping to “one day” compile it into a copyrighted book, only to get ill and die before they accomplish it and have all that work languish in boxes in uninterested relatives’ homes or where all that research is just destroyed? By uploading all my info to WorldConnect and to Nuestros Ranchos, I have left my work in a safe repository where no disaster in my home or to my computer or to me can touch it. I have not ever “stolen” anyone’s information, only reviewed it for links to my ancestors. When I find a possible link, I do all the subsequent research myself by reviewing and obtaining copies of the actual records in order to be sure of the correctness of the info.
Thank you Joseph, Arturo, Linda, Jessica and all of you who do the best you can to put those names and places online (however skimpily) for the benefit of everyone.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Seriously Considering a PolicyChange/Seriamente en vista de un cambio policial
I think it’s a wonderful requirement to make posting what we want to share of our genealogy work. Some people like Jessica are new and learn from our research, others learn from the things we share about how to go abt finding and reading information. By requiring people to share it stops those who would only take and not share.. I’m sure there is something to be learned by all of us from each person who has agreed to work as part of this group.
Personally I like sharing whatever I have since I know time and money limits many people. Because of that I’ve posted my records of close to 38,000 names on ancestry world tree, the free site of Ancestry.com. I do know that they put them on their pay site too but my records are wasted if I hoard them for myself. I do understand that others make a living researching for others and may use and sell whatever I post, I’m okay with that.. as long as someone somewhere gets a chance to find and reclaim their family.. I’m just part of a chain that helps people from Mexico reclaim and remember their families.. just my opinion..
Linda in B.C.
Jessica Castaneda <migranted@blomand.net> wrote:
“I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed. . I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and hope that I will not get the axe. I thank you for your patience with those of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy learning from all of you.”
Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
———————————
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I am with you all the way, Linda. I just cannot understand the reluctance on the part of some to share their genealogical research. I have made so many new contacts with people that have helped me after I posted my information to WorldConnect via Ancestry World Tree or to the many message boards available. (Although if I knew how to upload gedcoms on my own I could have posted directly to WorldConnect thus bypassing Ancestry.com).
Ancestry.com allows me to use their online genealogy program Family Tree which is user friendly, and I don’t have to buy a program for my computer where it could crash, etc.
I have given some folks new information (new to them) and vice versa, just as we have seen happen in this group. We help each other fill in the blanks and break down the brick walls, and it furthers the enthusiasm for this kind of work. I have instilled in many younger people the interest and passion for this. We are not going to live forever, so if I can help others this way, I consider I have done my part for posterity.
There are very few people who, after I have spent days doing their research at no charge whatsoever, don’t at least e-mail me back to thank me and let me know they got and appreciate the information. I don’t care. At least I feel gratified by the majority who do thank me, and who I know will continue the search. The agradecidos even hold family reunions and share all the info I gave them; I have reunited many clans this way. Some folks have lived in the same town for generations and never knew they were related.
How many instances have we seen where someone has done so much work, hoping to “one day” compile it into a copyrighted book, only to get ill and die before they accomplish it and have all that work languish in boxes in uninterested relatives’ homes or where all that research is just destroyed? By uploading all my info to WorldConnect and to Nuestros Ranchos, I have left my work in a safe repository where no disaster in my home or to my computer or to me can touch it. I have not ever “stolen” anyone’s information, only reviewed it for links to my ancestors. When I find a possible link, I do all the subsequent research myself by reviewing and obtaining copies of the actual records in order to be sure of the correctness of the info.
Thank you Joseph, Arturo, Linda, Jessica and all of you who do the best you can to put those names and places online (however skimpily) for the benefit of everyone.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Seriously Considering a PolicyChange/Seriamente en vista de un cambio policial
I think it’s a wonderful requirement to make posting what we want to share of our genealogy work. Some people like Jessica are new and learn from our research, others learn from the things we share about how to go abt finding and reading information. By requiring people to share it stops those who would only take and not share.. I’m sure there is something to be learned by all of us from each person who has agreed to work as part of this group.
Personally I like sharing whatever I have since I know time and money limits many people. Because of that I’ve posted my records of close to 38,000 names on ancestry world tree, the free site of Ancestry.com. I do know that they put them on their pay site too but my records are wasted if I hoard them for myself. I do understand that others make a living researching for others and may use and sell whatever I post, I’m okay with that.. as long as someone somewhere gets a chance to find and reclaim their family.. I’m just part of a chain that helps people from Mexico reclaim and remember their families.. just my opinion..
Linda in B.C.
Jessica Castaneda <migranted@blomand.net> wrote:
“I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed. . I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and hope that I will not get the axe. I thank you for your patience with those of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy learning from all of you.”
Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
———————————
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I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
John Robles
Emilie Garcia wrote:
I am with you all the way, Linda. I just cannot understand the reluctance on the part of some to share their genealogical research. I have made so many new contacts with people that have helped me after I posted my information to WorldConnect via Ancestry World Tree or to the many message boards available. (Although if I knew how to upload gedcoms on my own I could have posted directly to WorldConnect thus bypassing Ancestry.com).
Ancestry.com allows me to use their online genealogy program Family Tree which is user friendly, and I don’t have to buy a program for my computer where it could crash, etc.
I have given some folks new information (new to them) and vice versa, just as we have seen happen in this group. We help each other fill in the blanks and break down the brick walls, and it furthers the enthusiasm for this kind of work. I have instilled in many younger people the interest and passion for this. We are not going to live forever, so if I can help others this way, I consider I have done my part for posterity.
There are very few people who, after I have spent days doing their research at no charge whatsoever, don’t at least e-mail me back to thank me and let me know they got and appreciate the information. I don’t care. At least I feel gratified by the majority who do thank me, and who I know will continue the search. The agradecidos even hold family reunions and share all the info I gave them; I have reunited many clans this way. Some folks have lived in the same town for generations and never knew they were related.
How many instances have we seen where someone has done so much work, hoping to “one day” compile it into a copyrighted book, only to get ill and die before they accomplish it and have all that work languish in boxes in uninterested relatives’ homes or where all that research is just destroyed? By uploading all my info to WorldConnect and to Nuestros Ranchos, I have left my work in a safe repository where no disaster in my home or to my computer or to me can touch it. I have not ever “stolen” anyone’s information, only reviewed it for links to my ancestors. When I find a possible link, I do all the subsequent research myself by reviewing and obtaining copies of the actual records in order to be sure of the correctness of the info.
Thank you Joseph, Arturo, Linda, Jessica and all of you who do the best you can to put those names and places online (however skimpily) for the benefit of everyone.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Seriously Considering a PolicyChange/Seriamente en vista de un cambio policial
I think it’s a wonderful requirement to make posting what we want to share of our genealogy work. Some people like Jessica are new and learn from our research, others learn from the things we share about how to go abt finding and reading information. By requiring people to share it stops those who would only take and not share.. I’m sure there is something to be learned by all of us from each person who has agreed to work as part of this group.
Personally I like sharing whatever I have since I know time and money limits many people. Because of that I’ve posted my records of close to 38,000 names on ancestry world tree, the free site of Ancestry.com. I do know that they put them on their pay site too but my records are wasted if I hoard them for myself. I do understand that others make a living researching for others and may use and sell whatever I post, I’m okay with that.. as long as someone somewhere gets a chance to find and reclaim their family.. I’m just part of a chain that helps people from Mexico reclaim and remember their families.. just my opinion..
Linda in B.C.
Jessica Castaneda > wrote:
“I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed. . I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and hope that I will not get the axe. I thank you for your patience with those of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy learning from all of you.”
Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
———————————
Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
John Robles
Emilie Garcia wrote:
I am with you all the way, Linda. I just cannot understand the reluctance on the part of some to share their genealogical research. I have made so many new contacts with people that have helped me after I posted my information to WorldConnect via Ancestry World Tree or to the many message boards available. (Although if I knew how to upload gedcoms on my own I could have posted directly to WorldConnect thus bypassing Ancestry.com).
Ancestry.com allows me to use their online genealogy program Family Tree which is user friendly, and I don’t have to buy a program for my computer where it could crash, etc.
I have given some folks new information (new to them) and vice versa, just as we have seen happen in this group. We help each other fill in the blanks and break down the brick walls, and it furthers the enthusiasm for this kind of work. I have instilled in many younger people the interest and passion for this. We are not going to live forever, so if I can help others this way, I consider I have done my part for posterity.
There are very few people who, after I have spent days doing their research at no charge whatsoever, don’t at least e-mail me back to thank me and let me know they got and appreciate the information. I don’t care. At least I feel gratified by the majority who do thank me, and who I know will continue the search. The agradecidos even hold family reunions and share all the info I gave them; I have reunited many clans this way. Some folks have lived in the same town for generations and never knew they were related.
How many instances have we seen where someone has done so much work, hoping to “one day” compile it into a copyrighted book, only to get ill and die before they accomplish it and have all that work languish in boxes in uninterested relatives’ homes or where all that research is just destroyed? By uploading all my info to WorldConnect and to Nuestros Ranchos, I have left my work in a safe repository where no disaster in my home or to my computer or to me can touch it. I have not ever “stolen” anyone’s information, only reviewed it for links to my ancestors. When I find a possible link, I do all the subsequent research myself by reviewing and obtaining copies of the actual records in order to be sure of the correctness of the info.
Thank you Joseph, Arturo, Linda, Jessica and all of you who do the best you can to put those names and places online (however skimpily) for the benefit of everyone.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Seriously Considering a PolicyChange/Seriamente en vista de un cambio policial
I think it’s a wonderful requirement to make posting what we want to share of our genealogy work. Some people like Jessica are new and learn from our research, others learn from the things we share about how to go abt finding and reading information. By requiring people to share it stops those who would only take and not share.. I’m sure there is something to be learned by all of us from each person who has agreed to work as part of this group.
Personally I like sharing whatever I have since I know time and money limits many people. Because of that I’ve posted my records of close to 38,000 names on ancestry world tree, the free site of Ancestry.com. I do know that they put them on their pay site too but my records are wasted if I hoard them for myself. I do understand that others make a living researching for others and may use and sell whatever I post, I’m okay with that.. as long as someone somewhere gets a chance to find and reclaim their family.. I’m just part of a chain that helps people from Mexico reclaim and remember their families.. just my opinion..
Linda in B.C.
Jessica Castaneda > wrote:
“I haven’t submitted anything yet since I really haven’t had time to do any
research. All I still know if what I submitted when I first subscribed. . I subscribed hoping to be able to add my information and be able to learn from others searching for ancestors in the same area. I have learned a lot just from reading the posts of members of the group and hope that I will not get the axe. I thank you for your patience with those of us that rarely enter into group conversation-and provide really no information on our “antepasados” although I can say for myself I enjoy learning from all of you.”
Thanks- Jessica Castaneda
———————————
Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
John,
Also let us know what genealogical resources you are familiar with so far. Have you looked in FamilySearch.com or WorldConnect or visited any of the Family History Centers in your area? Can you read Spanish? There is a website called “Municipios de Mexico” that gives a lot of history of each state and city in Mexico.
It sounds like your folks may be from Aguascalientes if you say you looked in the Ex-Haciendas file. There is also a file called Diccionario Geografico that lists many place names. I found a baptism record for my husband’s ancestors for 1748 in a microfilm for Aguascalientes that said his ancestors were born in “Mariquitas”. Well, according to the Diccionario, Mariquitas was a ranch near Acoponita, Territory of Tepic, which is in another state entirely. I think this will lead me to what is now the state of Nayarit where the current Tepic is. I have found by experience that the priests or whoever wrote in the records would mention the name of the town someone was born in but not the state. Also, there are many in this group whose ancestors have been traced as far back as the late 1600s in Aguascalientes, so you might find a lot of help from them. Good luck.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
John,
Also let us know what genealogical resources you are familiar with so far. Have you looked in FamilySearch.com or WorldConnect or visited any of the Family History Centers in your area? Can you read Spanish? There is a website called “Municipios de Mexico” that gives a lot of history of each state and city in Mexico.
It sounds like your folks may be from Aguascalientes if you say you looked in the Ex-Haciendas file. There is also a file called Diccionario Geografico that lists many place names. I found a baptism record for my husband’s ancestors for 1748 in a microfilm for Aguascalientes that said his ancestors were born in “Mariquitas”. Well, according to the Diccionario, Mariquitas was a ranch near Acoponita, Territory of Tepic, which is in another state entirely. I think this will lead me to what is now the state of Nayarit where the current Tepic is. I have found by experience that the priests or whoever wrote in the records would mention the name of the town someone was born in but not the state. Also, there are many in this group whose ancestors have been traced as far back as the late 1600s in Aguascalientes, so you might find a lot of help from them. Good luck.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
John,
The reason I asked if you were familiar with the Spanish language is that there was/is a certain way that people in Mexico are named. They use as their surname both their father’s followed by their mother’s most of the time. You need to enter both surnames in certain fields in the FamilySearch.com’s IGI database. My husband is not Antonio Garcia in Mexico; he would be Antonio Garcia Acosta, Acosta being his mother’s surname. To clarify which Antonio Garcia Acosta he is, that being a common name, he might add his middle name of Carlos and then he would be Antonio Carlos Garcia Acosta. He would be addressed as Senor Garcia, not Senor Acosta.
Also, way back, men often used their mother’s surnames and ignored their father’s surnames even if they were legitimate, or even in the case of my husband’s ancestors, some would give as their father’s surname, the surname that their mother was born with. Also women often died young, and men would sometimes end up having had two or three wives and the children of the first marriages would give as their mother’s name the name of their step-mother. All this makes it very interesting in finding our ancestors. You have to hunt for them by entering various combinations of known surnames and the various spellings for each. Good luck.
Emilie
—– Original Message —–
From: Emilie Garcia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
John,
Also let us know what genealogical resources you are familiar with so far. Have you looked in FamilySearch.com or WorldConnect or visited any of the Family History Centers in your area? Can you read Spanish? There is a website called “Municipios de Mexico” that gives a lot of history of each state and city in Mexico.
It sounds like your folks may be from Aguascalientes if you say you looked in the Ex-Haciendas file. There is also a file called Diccionario Geografico that lists many place names. I found a baptism record for my husband’s ancestors for 1748 in a microfilm for Aguascalientes that said his ancestors were born in “Mariquitas”. Well, according to the Diccionario, Mariquitas was a ranch near Acoponita, Territory of Tepic, which is in another state entirely. I think this will lead me to what is now the state of Nayarit where the current Tepic is. I have found by experience that the priests or whoever wrote in the records would mention the name of the town someone was born in but not the state. Also, there are many in this group whose ancestors have been traced as far back as the late 1600s in Aguascalientes, so you might find a lot of help from them. Good luck.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Joseph Puentes<mailto:makas@nc.rr.com>
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org<mailto:research@nuestrosranchos.org<mailto:research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
John,
The reason I asked if you were familiar with the Spanish language is that there was/is a certain way that people in Mexico are named. They use as their surname both their father’s followed by their mother’s most of the time. You need to enter both surnames in certain fields in the FamilySearch.com’s IGI database. My husband is not Antonio Garcia in Mexico; he would be Antonio Garcia Acosta, Acosta being his mother’s surname. To clarify which Antonio Garcia Acosta he is, that being a common name, he might add his middle name of Carlos and then he would be Antonio Carlos Garcia Acosta. He would be addressed as Senor Garcia, not Senor Acosta.
Also, way back, men often used their mother’s surnames and ignored their father’s surnames even if they were legitimate, or even in the case of my husband’s ancestors, some would give as their father’s surname, the surname that their mother was born with. Also women often died young, and men would sometimes end up having had two or three wives and the children of the first marriages would give as their mother’s name the name of their step-mother. All this makes it very interesting in finding our ancestors. You have to hunt for them by entering various combinations of known surnames and the various spellings for each. Good luck.
Emilie
—– Original Message —–
From: Emilie Garcia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
John,
Also let us know what genealogical resources you are familiar with so far. Have you looked in FamilySearch.com or WorldConnect or visited any of the Family History Centers in your area? Can you read Spanish? There is a website called “Municipios de Mexico” that gives a lot of history of each state and city in Mexico.
It sounds like your folks may be from Aguascalientes if you say you looked in the Ex-Haciendas file. There is also a file called Diccionario Geografico that lists many place names. I found a baptism record for my husband’s ancestors for 1748 in a microfilm for Aguascalientes that said his ancestors were born in “Mariquitas”. Well, according to the Diccionario, Mariquitas was a ranch near Acoponita, Territory of Tepic, which is in another state entirely. I think this will lead me to what is now the state of Nayarit where the current Tepic is. I have found by experience that the priests or whoever wrote in the records would mention the name of the town someone was born in but not the state. Also, there are many in this group whose ancestors have been traced as far back as the late 1600s in Aguascalientes, so you might find a lot of help from them. Good luck.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Joseph Puentes<mailto:makas@nc.rr.com>
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org<mailto:research@nuestrosranchos.org<mailto:research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
Hi
I am familiar with lots of sources, but not from Mexico so I would appreciate any source info there. I have traced 3 branches of my mother’s family back to the early 1600s, so am familiar with several online sources. From my dad’s family I only have a few baptismal certificates from the US and two from MExico, and names of my great grandparents but no info on where they lived. My dad was born in Aguascalientes, and my grandparents too. That’s about all I know, except that I have family members who I have never met living in Puebla, Pbla.
I will get together what I have and submit it later.
John
Emilie Garcia wrote:
John,
Also let us know what genealogical resources you are familiar with so far. Have you looked in FamilySearch.com or WorldConnect or visited any of the Family History Centers in your area? Can you read Spanish? There is a website called “Municipios de Mexico” that gives a lot of history of each state and city in Mexico.
It sounds like your folks may be from Aguascalientes if you say you looked in the Ex-Haciendas file. There is also a file called Diccionario Geografico that lists many place names. I found a baptism record for my husband’s ancestors for 1748 in a microfilm for Aguascalientes that said his ancestors were born in “Mariquitas”. Well, according to the Diccionario, Mariquitas was a ranch near Acoponita, Territory of Tepic, which is in another state entirely. I think this will lead me to what is now the state of Nayarit where the current Tepic is. I have found by experience that the priests or whoever wrote in the records would mention the name of the town someone was born in but not the state. Also, there are many in this group whose ancestors have been traced as far back as the late 1600s in Aguascalientes, so you might find a lot of help from them. Good luck.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —-
—– Original Message —–
From: Joseph Puentes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] John Robles
You just joined a few days ago. Let’s put aside the discussion about
quitting for the moment. Why not start at the beginning and send in an
Introduction. Give us the surnames you are researching along with the
specific places in either Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. If
you don’t have any of that information give us what you have and why you
believe that you have roots in one of those three states. It’s a lot
easier for the members of the group to advise if they have some
information to go on.
thanks,
joseph
john robles wrote:
>I for one am not sure how to share my info. Plus, I only have one generation in Mexico, and no siblings. The places my grandparents were born are not listed in the Ex Haciendas, and I haven’t been able to make a connection yet. So I am not sure if I should quit or wait and see if someone hooks their info to mine!
> Any pointers on how to get started in the group??
> John Robles
>
>
>
