There is another document that I saw in the lds library in west los angeles where after 2 years after arriving in mexico ( I think Puebla) lope ruiz de esparza states that he is married to petronila moctezuma and it states that she is a descendent of Moctezuma II. If I recall correctly, it did not list her parents
I saw this document 1 day before the library closed for renovations. I was busy getting as much work done as I could when another patron next to me pointed out that he had found that document. We had to leave and was unable to make a copy of said document but took quick notes. I will look for them.
I have put aside much of my genealogy work due to illnesses in my family. I have also not been as careful with my notes due to these distractions. I will reorganize the work that I have done in the past 6 months to make sure that I don’t toss away important notes
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From: Bill Figueroa
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:18:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Surnames in the 1600s and early 1700
Jaime,
The only documentation that I know exists is mentioned in a submission to the LDS by mexican genealogist Jaime Holcombe. Apparently, he had a document in which Lope Ruiz de Esparza stated that “the mother of his wife was the granddaughter of the last Aztec emperor, Moctezuma”. He mentioned that this document had been given to him by Lic. Luis López Martínez. It is my understanding that he gave that document to Dr. Mariano González-Leal to include in his book(s) “Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia”. As you know, Mr. González-Leal has published two volumes of his book and will soon release several others. I’ve tried to contact him several times in the past but got no reply to my inquiries. Let’s hope that the Ruiz de Esparza genealogy is included in one of his remaining books.
Bill Figueroa
—– Original Message —– From: “Jaime R. Alvarado”
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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Surnames in the 1600s and early 1700
Bill,
Are you aware of the existence of any document where Petronilla is identified as descendant of Moctezuma? I have the recollection that there is some document that states referring to her with something such as: “known to be grand daughter of Moctezuma”, but I have not been able to track the source.
Jaime Alvarado
R. Ricci,
Thanks for the info. We miss your input. I can only wish you and your family prompt recovery. We will keep you in our prayers.
Sincerely
Jaime Alvarado
wow, this is like a holy relic to alteños, seriously, i think you meant Lope was married to Ana Francisca Navarro de Gabay, aka Ana de Gabay, we need to get a hold of that document. I think I know of a away to contact don Mariano Gonzalez Leal. -Daniel
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