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This is a very important document, but the way I read it the “Francisca
who married Diego Temiño de Velasco” is the sister of Beatriz de Alcocer
and daughter of Hernando and Isabel as you say. Thus Francisca de
Alcocer (who married Diego de Velasco) is the Tía of Elvira, Maria (who
married Pedro Castellar), and Beatriz de Alcozer (who married Juan de
Salamanca). That makes Francisca de Velasco (daughter of Francisca and
Diego) the prima hermana of Elvira and Beatriz as the document says. The
Francisca who married Diego is not the daughter of Pedro de Leon and
Betriz de Alcocer, but rather of Hernando and Isabel.

What is more confusing is that Himmerich y Valencia and Icaza write
that: “Lope de Saavedra married a daughter of Gonzalo Gomez de Saavedra
and doña Leonor de Orellana, also of Caceres … they had two sons and
two daughters. He died in 1538, the same year he was referred to the
Inquisition for having a first cousin as a concubine.” So who was the
concubine and what is the relation between Elvira and Lope?
George

Bill Figueroa wrote:
> Esther,
>
> I had not seen this document, which contains very important genealogical
> information. Thanks for sharing it. According to what it says, the
> parents
> of Francisca and Beatriz de Alcocer were Hernando de Bañuelos and
> Isabel de
> Alcocer. I made the required revisions to my database.
>
> Pedro de León and Beatriz de Alcocer had two daughters, Beatriz who
> married
> Juan de Salamanca, and Francisca who married Diego de Velasco (aka
> Diego de
> Temiño or Diego Temiño de Velasco). I think we have their descendants
> properly identified.
>
> The accusation is pretty disgusting, although I take it with a grain of
> salt. Many accusations presented to the Santo Oficio were dismissed as
> totally false. I have two examples, one presented against Bernarda
> Salado
> by a black slave named Antonia de Olmo, who accused her of practicing
> witchery. The case was dismissed and Antonia de Olmo declared of feeble
> mind by the Santo Oficio. Obviously a disgruntled employee. The other
> example was Andrés Ruiz de Esparza, brother of my ancestor Lope Ruiz de
> Esparza, who was accused of being a Lutheran. His crime was,
> supposedly, to
> have befriended some Lutheran soldiers during the wars Spain fought
> against
> William d’Orange (William the Silent) when the Netherlands rebelled
> against
> Spain. At the time, Spain (Carlos I de España = Carlos V de Alemania)
> ruled
> most of Western Europe. The accusation, presented in México City, was
> found
> to be false.
>
> We don’t know what the Santo Oficio de la Inquisición ruled in the
> case of
> Lope de Saavedra, but I don’t take these accusations seriously. It
> would be
> interesting to see the entire document and to know what was the final
> ruling
> by the Santo Oficio.
>
> Bill
>
>
> —– Original Message —– From:
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DIEGO TEMINO DE VELASCO
>
>
> Look at this document. :
>
> PROCESO DEL SANTO OFICIO DE LA INQUISICIÓN CONTRA LOPE DE SAAVEDRA POR
> AMANCEBADO.
>
> En 3 de diciembre de 1539, ante Fray Juan de Zumarraga, primer
> Obispo de la ciudad de México y juez inquisidor, y en presencia de Miguel
> López de Legazpi, parecio Cristóbal Caniego, fiscal de dicho Santo
> Oficio y
> presentó denuncia contra Lopez de Sayavedra (Saavedra), natural de la
> villa
> de Cáceres, vecino de México, y marido de Elvira de León, acusado de
> estar
> amancebado…
>
>

 
Posted : 28/08/2008 6:00 am
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George,

I got two names mixed up in my previous email. What I meant to say was that
Pedro de Leon and Beatriz de Alcocer had two daughters, Beatriz who married
Juan de Salamanca, and Francisca who married Lope de Saavedra. Francisca de
Alcocer (the elder) sister-in-law to Pedro de León, was married to Diego
Temiño de Velasco. I still have not checked Himmerich y Valencia and Icaza.

As far as Francisco de Orosco Aguero is concerned, he was the son of
Geronimo de Orosco and Angela de Velasco, residents of Aguascalientes and
Teocaltiche. This Geronimo de Orosco is the one I’m trying to link to Dr.
Geronimo de Orosco y Lerma, Gobernador de la Nueva Galicia. I know they
were closely related, but I don’t know who their ancestors were to find the
proper link.

Bill Figueroa

 
Posted : 28/08/2008 11:15 am
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