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(@juan-cristobal-villalobos-lomelin)
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Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.

Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
Someone Know something about?

Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father, she was born in San juan de los Lagos
Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).

Best regards
J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 5:18 pm
(@rodriguez-de-frias)
Posts: 227
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Hello Cristobal,

I live 30 min away from San Juan de los Lagos, in Valle de Guadalupe, and I have also heard that same story from the older people here that Thomas Alba Edison was born somewhere in Los Altos and that he went to live to the US when he was young. It would be nice to lookup his birth certificate to see who his parents were.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN
Enviado el: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:19 PM
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
Someone Know something about?

Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father, she was born in San juan de los Lagos
Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).

Best regards
J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 6:45 pm
(@luismgonzalez)
Posts: 25
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HI, CRISTOVAL, THIS SOUNDS CRASY BUT I WENT TO A CATHOLIC COLEGE IN MEXICO THERE WAS THIS NUNE TEACHING FROM SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS SE TOLD ME SOME LIKE THAT AND EVERY TIME I TOLK ABOUT IT NO BODY BELIVE ME.
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH PRIMO
————– Original message from JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN : ————–

>
> Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.
> In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot
> to increase my trees.
> Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his
> relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
> Someone Know something about?
> Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father,
> she was born in San juan de los Lagos Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas
> del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834). Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez
> Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).
>
>
>
> Best regards
> J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.
>

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 6:45 pm
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
 

No, that is a myth. Alva was a common given name in America, and in the case of Thomas Alva Edison, he may have been given that name to honor someone that had that as a surname. I have also heard of another myth, that Walt Disney was Spanish, born in Spain as a Sephardic Jew, but that has proven false also.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
—– Original Message —–
From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
Someone Know something about?

Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father, she was born in San juan de los Lagos
Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).

Best regards
J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 6:45 pm
(@luismgonzalez)
Posts: 25
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HELLO EMILI WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I DO’N KNOW NOBODY ELSE WITH THAT NAME UNLESS IT IS A SPANISH LAST NAME, OCCORDING TO THIS NUNE THE STORY GOES LIKE THIS, ALVA’S MOM GOT PREGNANT WITH OUT BEEN MARRIED SHE WAS FROM A RICH FAMILY FROM SAN JUANS DE LOS LAGOS, SO THEY SENT HER TO USA TO HIDE THE PREGNANCY, IF YOU SEE ALVA’S BIOGRAPHY THERE IS NO FATHER JUST THE MOTHER, SO IT IS POSSIBLE DON YOU THINK?, WE AS MEXICAN DESSERV A LITTLE BIT MORE CREDIVIDLY.
SALUDOS
LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ.
————– Original message from “Emilie Garcia” : ————–

No, that is a myth. Alva was a common given name in America, and in the case of Thomas Alva Edison, he may have been given that name to honor someone that had that as a surname. I have also heard of another myth, that Walt Disney was
> Spanish, born in Spain as a Sephardic Jew, but that has proven false also.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> —– Original Message —–
> From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN To:
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
>
>
>
> Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.
> In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a
> lot to increase my trees.
> Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his
> relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
> Someone Know something about?
>
> Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father,
> she was born in San juan de los Lagos
> Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas
> del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
> Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez
> Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).
>
>
>
> Best regards
> J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.
>

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 7:15 pm
(@welester)
Posts: 234
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Hi everybody ,

I heard from people that live in Parras , Coahuila that Thomas Alva Edison is from there , go figure .

In my recent request for help I posted a plead for help but, I mispelled the last name of the monjita , it is URZUA from Cienega de Mata , Ojuelos , Jalisco . Her Great Grandfather was Vida Urzua and his wife was Agapita Lopez .

Can anyone help her out with more info on the family line ?

Thanx ,

Welester

> Hello Cristobal,> > I live 30 min away from San Juan de los Lagos, in Valle de Guadalupe, and I have also heard that same story from the older people here that Thomas Alba Edison was born somewhere in Los Altos and that he went to live to the US when he was young. It would be nice to lookup his birth certificate to see who his parents were.> > Saludos,> > Ricardo Rodriguez> Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco>
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Posted : 25/09/2008 8:00 pm
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
 

Luis Miguel,

Of course you wouldn’t know any American or Canadian or Englishman with that name. If you are from Mexico, Alva or Alba is known to you only as a surname, not a given name. Many Albas or Alvas in Mexico have claimed Thomas Alva Edison as their relative. I find some of those stories coming from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, and now Lester thinks it came from Coahuila. You say the story came from Lagos in Jalisco. Even some people with the surname Alvarez think that his name was really Alvarez. Someone in Jalisco said that a woman from there claimed to be his grandmother, and her surname was Alvarez.

According to John Burton, a descendant of Thomas Alva Edison, the birth of Thomas was recorded in two of their family bibles. Ohio did not require births to be registered in an official civil registry prior to 1870. He was born in Milan, Ohio, the last of seven children. He was named after a Captain Alva Bradley, from Canada, a friend of the family. Captain Bradley’s first name was Alva. I have seen Alva used as a first name in several lists of English people. I think people in Mexico find it hard to believe that Alva can be someone’s first or middle name and not their surname because in Mexico it is used only as a surname. Some people in Mexico even have said that his name was Tomas de Alba de Edison, thinking the way they do in Mexico that he used his father’s name and then his mother’s name, but his father was an Edison. His mother was an Elliott. In Mexico he would be known as Tomas Edison Elliott. See?

Perhaps people in Mexico want Thomas Alva Edison to be Mexican so badly because he was one of the most famous and best scientists the world has ever known. But there are too many stories from so many parts of Mexico, and not from Spain, where Alba is a common surname, that it gets less and less credible as time goes on. My husband is a descendant of the Albas or de Albas in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, and in my research I have never run into any evidence that the inventor was born in Jalisco or anywhere in Mexico.

So, the story to me is a myth, like the one about Walt Disney. I don’t know where that story came from, but that is another myth.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
—– Original Message —–
From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

HELLO EMILI WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I DO’N KNOW NOBODY ELSE WITH THAT NAME UNLESS IT IS A SPANISH LAST NAME, OCCORDING TO THIS NUNE THE STORY GOES LIKE THIS, ALVA’S MOM GOT PREGNANT WITH OUT BEEN MARRIED SHE WAS FROM A RICH FAMILY FROM SAN JUANS DE LOS LAGOS, SO THEY SENT HER TO USA TO HIDE THE PREGNANCY, IF YOU SEE ALVA’S BIOGRAPHY THERE IS NO FATHER JUST THE MOTHER, SO IT IS POSSIBLE DON YOU THINK?, WE AS MEXICAN DESSERV A LITTLE BIT MORE CREDIVIDLY.
SALUDOS
LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ.
————– Original message from “Emilie Garcia” <auntyemfaustus@hotmail.com>: ————–

No, that is a myth. Alva was a common given name in America, and in the case of Thomas Alva Edison, he may have been given that name to honor someone that had that as a surname. I have also heard of another myth, that Walt Disney was
> Spanish, born in Spain as a Sephardic Jew, but that has proven false also.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> —– Original Message —–
> From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN To:
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
>
>
>
> Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.
> In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a
> lot to increase my trees.
> Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his
> relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
> Someone Know something about?
>
> Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father,
> she was born in San juan de los Lagos
> Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas
> del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
> Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez
> Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).
>
>
>
> Best regards
> J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.
>

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 9:30 pm
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
 

Juan Cristobal,

My husband is a descendant of the de Albas, Martins, Perez, Magdaleno, and Garcia from Jalisco. Maybe you and he are related in some way? They were in Encarnacion de Diaz in the 1800s. Some of his ancestors also came from San Juan and Lagos.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
—– Original Message —–
From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
Someone Know something about?

Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father, she was born in San juan de los Lagos
Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).

Best regards
J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 9:45 pm
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
 

I found the family of Thomas Alva Edison listed in the Census of 1850 for Milan, Erie County, Ohio.

Samuel Edison age 45, born in Nova Scotia
Nancy Edison age 40, born in New York
William P. age 19, born in Canada
Harriet V. age 16, born in Canada
Alana [?] (male) age 3, born in Ohio
Stephen Elliott age 55, born in Conn [Connecticut?]

That little 3 year old boy must really be “Alva”, not Alana, and he was born in 1847, the year Thomas was born. This family is also listed in later American censuses, so it doesn’t look like any of them ever went to Mexico.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
—– Original Message —–
From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

HI, CRISTOVAL, THIS SOUNDS CRASY BUT I WENT TO A CATHOLIC COLEGE IN MEXICO THERE WAS THIS NUNE TEACHING FROM SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS SE TOLD ME SOME LIKE THAT AND EVERY TIME I TOLK ABOUT IT NO BODY BELIVE ME.
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH PRIMO
————– Original message from JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN <jcvillalo@prodigy.net.mx>: ————–

>
> Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.
> In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot
> to increase my trees.
> Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his
> relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
> Someone Know something about?
> Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father,
> she was born in San juan de los Lagos Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas
> del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834). Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez
> Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).
>
>
>
> Best regards
> J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.
>

 
Posted : 25/09/2008 10:00 pm
(@luismgonzalez)
Posts: 25
Eminent Member
 

HI EMILIE
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER THIS IS WHAT ALL WE NEED AND ARE LOOKING FOR. THE ANSWER BASE ON REAL FACTS, I WISH I CAN GET THE RIGHT ANSWER TO AL THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG TO DREAM, BECAUSE THIS DREAM OR MYTHS IS WHAT KEEP US MOTIVATED IN THIS QUEST, I GROW UP IN A SMALL TOWN IN JALISCO AND IT WAS VERY DELIGHTFULL TO LISEN THIS TYPE OF HISTORIES FROM THE ELDER.
BEEN MEXICAN DOES NOT MEANS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ANY OTHER NAMES OR SURNAMES, IT IS JUST THAT AS I SAID IS FUN TO LISEN AND DREAM ABOUT IT,
SALUDOS.

LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
————– Original message from “Emilie Garcia” : ————–

> Luis Miguel,
> Of course you wouldn’t know any American or Canadian or Englishman with that name. If you are from Mexico, Alva or Alba is known to you only as a surname, not a given name. Many Albas or Alvas in Mexico have claimed Thomas Alva Edison as their relative. I find some of those stories coming from Sombrerete, Zacatecas, and now Lester thinks it came from Coahuila. You say the story came from Lagos in Jalisco. Even some people with the surname Alvarez think that his name was really Alvarez. Someone in Jalisco said that a woman from there
> claimed to be his grandmother, and her surname was Alvarez.
> According to John Burton, a descendant of Thomas Alva Edison, the birth of Thomas was recorded in two of their family bibles. Ohio did not require births to be registered in an official civil registry prior to 1870. He was born in Milan, Ohio, the last of seven children. He was named after a Captain Alva Bradley, from Canada, a friend of the family. Captain Bradley’s first name was
> Alva. I have seen Alva used as a first name in several lists of English people.
> I think people in Mexico find it hard to believe that Alva can be someone’s
> first or middle name and not their surname because in Mexico it is used only as
> a surname. Some people in Mexico even have said that his name was Tomas de Alba
> de Edison, thinking the way they do in Mexico that he used his father’s name and
> then his mother’s name, but his father was an Edison. His mother was an
> Elliott. In Mexico he would be known as Tomas Edison Elliott. See?
>
> Perhaps people in Mexico want Thomas Alva Edison to be Mexican so badly because
> he was one of the most famous and best scientists the world has ever known. But
> there are too many stories from so many parts of Mexico, and not from Spain,
> where Alba is a common surname, that it gets less and less credible as time goes
> on. My husband is a descendant of the Albas or de Albas in Encarnacion de Diaz,
> Jalisco, and in my research I have never run into any evidence that the inventor
> was born in Jalisco or anywhere in Mexico.
>
> So, the story to me is a myth, like the one about Walt Disney. I don’t know
> where that story came from, but that is another myth.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> —– Original Message —–
> From: gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
>
>
> HELLO EMILI WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I DO’N KNOW NOBODY ELSE WITH THAT NAME
> UNLESS IT IS A SPANISH LAST NAME, OCCORDING TO THIS NUNE THE STORY GOES LIKE
> THIS, ALVA’S MOM GOT PREGNANT WITH OUT BEEN MARRIED SHE WAS FROM A RICH FAMILY
> FROM SAN JUANS DE LOS LAGOS, SO THEY SENT HER TO USA TO HIDE THE PREGNANCY, IF
> YOU SEE ALVA’S BIOGRAPHY THERE IS NO FATHER JUST THE MOTHER, SO IT IS POSSIBLE
> DON YOU THINK?, WE AS MEXICAN DESSERV A LITTLE BIT MORE CREDIVIDLY.
> SALUDOS
> LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ.
> ————– Original message from “Emilie Garcia”
> >: ————–
>
> No, that is a myth. Alva was a common given name in America, and in the case
> of Thomas Alva Edison, he may have been given that name to honor someone that
> had that as a surname. I have also heard of another myth, that Walt Disney was
> > Spanish, born in Spain as a Sephardic Jew, but that has proven false also.
> >
> > Emilie
> > Port Orchard, WA
> > —– Original Message —–
> > From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN To:
> >
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.
> > In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a
> > lot to increase my trees.
> > Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his
> mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his
> > relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
> > Someone Know something about?
> >
> > Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my
> father,
> > she was born in San juan de los Lagos
> > Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her
> Felicitas
> > del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
> > Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez
> > Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> > J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.
> >
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Posted : 25/09/2008 11:15 pm
(@siriuslr)
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<<hola a todos, llamenme loca o como quieran pero a mi mi abuela me dijo que Thomas Alva Edison era su tio que su mama le contó que ellos quedaron huerfanos muy chiquitos y que durante la guerra con los franceses los Edison se llevaron a su hermano Tomas (mi abuelita pensaba que ellos eran como predicadores o algo asi pues lo adoptaron en seguida) y que siempre habia estado muy triste por ello,obvio eran todos de Jalisco (de la Chona y de San Juande los Lagos por un lado y deGuadalajara yTepatitlan por el otro..) ella, su mama se apellidaba De Alba creo que Alvarez ( de los Alvarez del Castillo y por su puesto teniamos un el tio Cleto etc.) lo unico que se es que ellos no solo estaban convencidos si no que vivian con profundo pesar yo nunca he sabido de donde Tomas Alva o Alba Edison saco el Alva… pues sus supuestos hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta acta de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de mi papa y una de Thomas Alva Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver…en fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos Lety Reynoso
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Posted : 25/09/2008 11:15 pm
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Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su mama.> From: siriuslr@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > > < _________________________________________________________________> Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta ¡Un Auto! > http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx> — — — — — — — — — — — — –> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Posted : 25/09/2008 11:30 pm
(@juan-cristobal-villalobos-lomelin)
Posts: 45
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Topic starter
 

Emilie,

Almost all the family of my father come from Encarnación de Diaz, San Juan, Lagos and Aguascalientes.
If you give the name of the grant grand parents and grand parents of your husband, maybe we can know if we are relatives.
I have information from the San Juan de los Lagos “de Alba” since 1600s for the Perez since 1700s.
The name of the grand father of my father is Pastor Perez Lozano, the husband of Maria de los Angeles de Alba Jimenez that mention in my first mail.
The parents of Pastor were: Jose Guadalupe Perez(b.1825) and Ma de la Cruz Lozano Perez(b.9may 1828 in Encarnacion).

Thanks for your comments and the information from Thomas Alva Edison.

Juan Cristobal
San Luis Potosí, Mx

—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Emilie Garcia
Enviado el: Jueves, 25 de Septiembre de 2008 04:35 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

Juan Cristobal,

My husband is a descendant of the de Albas, Martins, Perez, Magdaleno, and Garcia from Jalisco. Maybe you and he are related in some way? They were in Encarnacion de Diaz in the 1800s. Some of his ancestors also came from San Juan and Lagos.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
—– Original Message —–
From: JUAN CRISTOBAL VILLALOBOS LOMELIN
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

Hello to all the primos de nuestros ranchos.

In the last weeks a received a lot of help of several of you that help me a lot to increase my trees.

Now I have a new question, My father told me that his grand mother for his mother side, mention to him, that Tomas Alva Edison was son of one of his relative De Alba from the San Juan de los Lagos.
Someone Know something about?

Ma de los Angeles De Alba Jimenez (1852-1940)is the grandmother of my father, she was born in San juan de los Lagos
Her Father was Jose Anacleto de Alba y Perez Franco(b.1826) and her Felicitas del Refugio Jimenez Magdaleno(b.1834).
Her GrandParents for the father side are Jose Maria Martin De Alba Perez Franco(b.1798) y Ma. Antonia Felipa Perez Franco y Garcia(b.1801).

Best regards
J. Cristobal Villalobos Lomelín.

 
Posted : 26/09/2008 12:00 am
(@luismgonzalez)
Posts: 25
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HOLA LETY
ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI AL COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA DE SAN JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO UNA VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO CON TU PAPA LO CREO PORQUE TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE DE MI PAPA) EN TODOS LOS ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA MISMA CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS ALBA ERA DE JALISCO.
SALUDOS
LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
————– Original message from leticia reynoso : ————–

> Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su mama.> From: siriuslr@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > > Edison saco el Alva… pues sus supuestos hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta acta
> de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de mi papa y una de Thomas Alva
> Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver…en fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos Lety
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Posted : 26/09/2008 12:15 am
(@rodriguez-de-frias)
Posts: 227
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Lety (y demás), a mi me platicaron algunas personas que ya fallecieron también la misma historia que la que te contaron, pero además, según eso que para que no fueran a saber que Tomas Alva (Alvarez) Edison no era estadounidense por tantas cosas que inventó, le expidieron un acta donde decía que fue nacido en Estados Unidos. Sería bueno saber si la persona que dice Emily se trata del mismo Alva Edison o quizás sea otra persona apegada a la familia Edison. Una muestra de su ADN también sería ideal para verificar sus orígenes.

No tienes la foto que mencionas para ver el parecido que había con tus antepasados?

Saludos,

Ricardo

—–Mensaje original—–
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de gonzalez4336@bellsouth.net
Enviado el: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:15 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison

HOLA LETY
ES MUY PROBLABLE QUE SEA CIERTO YO FUI AL COLEGIO DE MONJITAS EN SAN MIGUEL Y UNA DE ELLAS ERA DE SAN JUAN Y ELLA ESTABA CONVENCIDA DE QUE TOMAS ERA DE SAN JUAN DE LAS FAMILIAS DE ALBA. Y NO ME LO PLATICO UNA VEZ SINO MUCHAS.
NO VEO PORQUE NO Y LO QUE DICES DE EL PARECIDO CON TU PAPA LO CREO PORQUE TAMBIEN ME RECUERDA MUCHO A MI ABUELO (POR PATE DE MI PAPA) EN TODOS LOS ASPECTOS MI ABUELO TENIA LA MISMA FISINOMIA LA MISMA CARA POSIBLEMENTE TENIAN ALGUNA RELACION SI ES QUE ES CIERTO QUE TOMAS ALBA ERA DE JALISCO.
SALUDOS
LUIS MIGUEL GONZALEZ JIMENEZ.
————– Original message from leticia reynoso : ————–

> Perdon mi abuela decia que su abuela no su mama.> From: siriuslr@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:11:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas Alba Edison> > > Edison saco el Alva… pues sus supuestos hermanos solo son Edison..y hasta acta
> de nacimiento tiene.. pero si tu vez una foto de mi papa y una de Thomas Alva
> Edison jurarias que tienen algo que ver…en fin..tal vez nunca lo sabremos Lety
> Reynoso> _________________________________________________________________>
> Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta ¡Un Auto! >
> http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx> — — — — — — — — — — — —
> –> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:>
> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:>
> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
> _________________________________________________________________
> Realiza búsquedas en Internet y llévate hasta ¡Un Auto!
> http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx

 
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