I would need some dates to try to place these people. There are a
number of different Juan de Miramontes, born to different descendants of
the original Juan de Miramontes at different times. I do have a
Francisco de Bobadilla who was the encomendero of Tepechitlan in the
early 1600s. I have not traced down that lineage.
You can search the database by clicking on the GEDCOM menu item. Do you
remember whose website you found this information on? Did they have a
source?
—–Original Message—–
This is very interesting, Arturo. I forgot where I got it (someone’s
webpage, I think) that the parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan
de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are
Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents
are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo. There
is more, but do you have any documentation on any of these people.?
Luna
I would need some dates to try to place these people. There are a
number of different Juan de Miramontes, born to different descendants of
the original Juan de Miramontes at different times. I do have a
Francisco de Bobadilla who was the encomendero of Tepechitlan in the
early 1600s. I have not traced down that lineage.
You can search the database by clicking on the GEDCOM menu item. Do you
remember whose website you found this information on? Did they have a
source?
—–Original Message—–
This is very interesting, Arturo. I forgot where I got it (someone’s
webpage, I think) that the parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan
de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are
Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents
are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo. There
is more, but do you have any documentation on any of these people.?
Luna
Angie,
Anacleto and Juana had 14 children thy were
Ysidro 15 May 1889, Domitila 12 May 1890, Maria De Jesus 9 Feb 1892
Francisco 29 Nov 1893 Ynocencio 13 Jan 1897, Nicolas 13 Feb 1899
Pedro 23 Feb 1901, Soledad 23 Feb 1901, Ermigdia (spelling??)10 Aug 1902
Maria Guadalupe 7 Nov 1903, Federico 30 Nov 1905, Manuel 21 Dec 1907,
Salvador 10 Aug 1909, and Guadalupe 13 Oct 1911 These are all baptism dates.
The last Guadalupe was my childrens ancestor. My records show that I went back to
the late to mid 1700’s on most of my children ancestors.
Would be interested in those books or are they out of print?
Thank You
Sally
aajay1073 wrote:
So that makes three of us researching this Miramontes Family: Sally, Ulla-Brit, and myself.
Sally, you may be interested to know that Anacleto Miramontes’ mother, Maria Severa Cardenas Avila, is a descendant of a family depicted in the book ‘Los Valdes de Totatiche’. There are a couple of other people in this group researching this Valdes Family.
Also, Anacleto’s wife, Juana Covarrubias is a descendant of a family depicted in the book ‘Los Jara de Totatiche’. As a said before I am related to Juana’s family also. I looked over my notes and I was mistaken about Anacleto being married more than once. I have Juana as his only wife and I have four children listed for this family. If you tell me which child of thiers your children are descendants of, I can send you a chart of the information I have on Anacleto and Juana’s ancestors.
Hope to hear from you,
Angie Godina
Angie,
Anacleto and Juana had 14 children thy were
Ysidro 15 May 1889, Domitila 12 May 1890, Maria De Jesus 9 Feb 1892
Francisco 29 Nov 1893 Ynocencio 13 Jan 1897, Nicolas 13 Feb 1899
Pedro 23 Feb 1901, Soledad 23 Feb 1901, Ermigdia (spelling??)10 Aug 1902
Maria Guadalupe 7 Nov 1903, Federico 30 Nov 1905, Manuel 21 Dec 1907,
Salvador 10 Aug 1909, and Guadalupe 13 Oct 1911 These are all baptism dates.
The last Guadalupe was my childrens ancestor. My records show that I went back to
the late to mid 1700’s on most of my children ancestors.
Would be interested in those books or are they out of print?
Thank You
Sally
aajay1073 wrote:
So that makes three of us researching this Miramontes Family: Sally, Ulla-Brit, and myself.
Sally, you may be interested to know that Anacleto Miramontes’ mother, Maria Severa Cardenas Avila, is a descendant of a family depicted in the book ‘Los Valdes de Totatiche’. There are a couple of other people in this group researching this Valdes Family.
Also, Anacleto’s wife, Juana Covarrubias is a descendant of a family depicted in the book ‘Los Jara de Totatiche’. As a said before I am related to Juana’s family also. I looked over my notes and I was mistaken about Anacleto being married more than once. I have Juana as his only wife and I have four children listed for this family. If you tell me which child of thiers your children are descendants of, I can send you a chart of the information I have on Anacleto and Juana’s ancestors.
Hope to hear from you,
Angie Godina
I have recently found a document in Archivos Espanoles en Red for Nicolas de Haro, who was son of Hernando de Haro and grandson of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo. He states that his great-grandparents were Francisco Bobadilla and Maria Saucedo, which matches this claim:
The parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo.
I do not have Ana Francisca de Haro down as a child of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo, but I do have her down married to a Juan Ortiz de San Pedro, who was the brother of Cecilia Lopez (the second wife of Hernando de Haro and stepmother of Nicolas de Haro)… two pairs of siblings married to each other. It makes sense, particularly since I believe that the Ortiz de San Pedro and Haro Miramontes were the only Spanish families in Tlaltenango in the early 1600s.
I have recently found a document in Archivos Espanoles en Red for Nicolas de Haro, who was son of Hernando de Haro and grandson of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo. He states that his great-grandparents were Francisco Bobadilla and Maria Saucedo, which matches this claim:
The parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo.
I do not have Ana Francisca de Haro down as a child of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo, but I do have her down married to a Juan Ortiz de San Pedro, who was the brother of Cecilia Lopez (the second wife of Hernando de Haro and stepmother of Nicolas de Haro)… two pairs of siblings married to each other. It makes sense, particularly since I believe that the Ortiz de San Pedro and Haro Miramontes were the only Spanish families in Tlaltenango in the early 1600s.
Hi Arturo,
This is very interesting but confusing. I have the death document (1716,
Jerez) for Ana de Aro which has her married to Diego de la Torre. What
are the dates on your records and are these really two Ana de Aros?
George
arturoramos wrote:
> I have recently found a document in Archivos Espanoles en Red for Nicolas de Haro, who was son of Hernando de Haro and grandson of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo. He states that his great-grandparents were Francisco Bobadilla and Maria Saucedo, which matches this claim:
>
> The parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo.
>
> I do not have Ana Francisca de Haro down as a child of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo, but I do have her down married to a Juan Ortiz de San Pedro, who was the brother of Cecilia Lopez (the second wife of Hernando de Haro and stepmother of Nicolas de Haro)… two pairs of siblings married to each other. It makes sense, particularly since I believe that the Ortiz de San Pedro and Haro Miramontes were the only Spanish families in Tlaltenango in the early 1600s.
Hi Arturo,
This is very interesting but confusing. I have the death document (1716,
Jerez) for Ana de Aro which has her married to Diego de la Torre. What
are the dates on your records and are these really two Ana de Aros?
George
arturoramos wrote:
> I have recently found a document in Archivos Espanoles en Red for Nicolas de Haro, who was son of Hernando de Haro and grandson of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo. He states that his great-grandparents were Francisco Bobadilla and Maria Saucedo, which matches this claim:
>
> The parents of Anna Francisca de Haro were Juan de Miramontes and Maria Rodriguez de Haro Y Saucedo. Juan’s parents are Francisco de Miramontes and Maria de Rivera. Maria Rodriguez’s parents are Francisco de Bobadilla and Maria O Haro de Saucedo de Llavo.
>
> I do not have Ana Francisca de Haro down as a child of Juan de Miramonte and Maria de Haro y Saucedo, but I do have her down married to a Juan Ortiz de San Pedro, who was the brother of Cecilia Lopez (the second wife of Hernando de Haro and stepmother of Nicolas de Haro)… two pairs of siblings married to each other. It makes sense, particularly since I believe that the Ortiz de San Pedro and Haro Miramontes were the only Spanish families in Tlaltenango in the early 1600s.
Angie:
I was just going back over your posting of April where you asked me to look out for this couple (Isabel de Miramontes y Andres Martinez Correa) and mentioned that the wife had a sister by the name of Andrea Miramontes married to Francisco Salcedo. I have not found the couple’s marriage but have found Andrea de Miramontes appears in a dispensation for her son Antonio. That would make Isabel and Andrea the daughters of Antonio de Miramontes and Maria de Esquibel. Do you have a cite for Andrea and Isabel being sisters? That would add a very useful link in the Tlaltenango Families GEDCOM.
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 515, Entry 2588
“22 marzo 1695. Dispensa de segundo grado de afinidad por copula ilicita. Antonio de Salcedo, de 29 anos de edad natural del pueblo de Tlaltenango hijo legitimo de Francisco Salcedo y de Andrea Miramontes y Leonor de Ulloa, de 36 anos de edad, natural y vecina del Pueblo de Tlaltenango, vuida de Cristobal de Pineda, ambos residentes en el Pueblo de Xala. Declaracion del parentesco: que la dicha Leonor de Ulloa tuvo ilicita amistad con Juan de Miramontes, hermano legitimo de la dicha Andrea de Miramontes.”
Angie:
I was just going back over your posting of April where you asked me to look out for this couple (Isabel de Miramontes y Andres Martinez Correa) and mentioned that the wife had a sister by the name of Andrea Miramontes married to Francisco Salcedo. I have not found the couple’s marriage but have found Andrea de Miramontes appears in a dispensation for her son Antonio. That would make Isabel and Andrea the daughters of Antonio de Miramontes and Maria de Esquibel. Do you have a cite for Andrea and Isabel being sisters? That would add a very useful link in the Tlaltenango Families GEDCOM.
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 515, Entry 2588
“22 marzo 1695. Dispensa de segundo grado de afinidad por copula ilicita. Antonio de Salcedo, de 29 anos de edad natural del pueblo de Tlaltenango hijo legitimo de Francisco Salcedo y de Andrea Miramontes y Leonor de Ulloa, de 36 anos de edad, natural y vecina del Pueblo de Tlaltenango, vuida de Cristobal de Pineda, ambos residentes en el Pueblo de Xala. Declaracion del parentesco: que la dicha Leonor de Ulloa tuvo ilicita amistad con Juan de Miramontes, hermano legitimo de la dicha Andrea de Miramontes.”
Hopefully this all make sense…here it goes:
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 472, Entry 2358
Guadalajara, Jal. Mayo 5 de 1753. Exp. 170. – Dispensa de tercero con cuarto grado de afinidad por copula licita. – Nicolas de Llamas, originario y vecino del Pueblo de Taltenango y residente en esta Ciudad de Guadalajara, hijo legitimo de Matheo de Llamas y de Maria Gonzalez, viudo de Barbara de Avila; con Andrea Correa, espanola, originaria y vecina de dicho Pueblo de Taltenango, hija legitima de Andres Correa y de Thomasa Gonzalez. Declaracion del pretenso: Andrea de Miramontes e Isabel de Miramontes, eran hermanas, de la dicha Andrea resulto Antonio Salcedo y de este procedio Nicolas Salcedo, y de este mi difunta esposa Barbara de Avila, y de Isabel de Miramontes procedio Andres Correa, y de este mi pretensa. Se otorgo la dispensa en la Ciudad de Guadalajara, en 5 de mayo de 1753, para que los case el Cura del Pueblo de Taltenango. 3 fojas.
–Nicolas de Llamas first wife Barbara Avila great grandaughter of Andrea Miramontes
Barbara Avila > Nicolasa De Salcedo > Antonio Salcedo > Andrea Miramontes
–Second wife Andrea Correa grandaughter of Ysabel Miramontes
Andrea Correa > Andres Correa > Ysabel Miramontes
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 427, Entry 2185
Guadalajara, Jal. Marzo 6 de 1751. Exp. 29. – Dispensa de cuarto grado puro de consanguinidad. – Feliciano de los Santos de Avila, espanol, originario y vecino de la feligresia del Pueblo de Taltenango y residente en esta Ciudad de Guadalajara, hijo legitimo de Diego de Avila y de Nicolasa Salcedo; con Isabel Thomasa Magallanes, espanola, originaria y vecina de la misma feligresia de Taltenango, hija legitima de Cristobal Magallanes y de Isabel Correa. Declaracion del pretenso: Nicolasa de Miramontes(**) y Andrea de Miramontes, fueron hermanas, de la dicha Andrea procedio Antonio Salcedo, y de este Nicolasa Salcedo, y de esta yo, y de la dicha Nicolasa de Miramontes procedio Andres Correa, y de este Isabel Correa, y de esta la pretensa. Se otorgo la dispensa en la Ciudad de Guadalajara, en 6 de Marzo de 1751, para que los case el Cura propio del Pueblo de Taltenango. 4 fojas.
**Nicolasa Miramontes should actually be Ysabel Miramontes, since Ysabel is the mother of Andres Correa from above and IGI.
–Feliciano de los Santos de Avila is the great grandson of Andrea Miramontes and also the brother to Barbara Avila from above.
Feliciano Avila > Nicolasa De Salcedo > Antonio Salcedo > Andrea Miramontes
–Isabel Thomasa Magallanes is the great granddaughter of Ysabel Miramontes.
Isabel Magallanes > Ysabel Correa > Andres Correa > Ysabel Miramontes
As a note the Correa(s) surname is also sometimes written Martinez Correa(s) or sometimes just Martinez.
From IGI:
Feliciano de los Santos AVILA
PARENTS: Diego DE AVILA and Nicolasa SALCEDO
Thomasa Ysabel DE MAGALLANES
PARENTS: Christoval DE MAGALLANES and Ysabel MARTINES
Marriage: 21 APR 1751
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
NAME: Feliciano de los Santos AVILA SALZEDO
Christening: 12 NOV 1731
PARENTS: Diego DE AVILA and Nicolasa SALZEDO
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: J600894; DATES: 1718-1732; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443802;
Thomasa Ysabel MAGALLANES MARTINZ.
Christening: 2 JAN 1732
PARENTS: Xptoval DE MAGALLANES and Ysabel MARTINZ. CORREAS
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: K600894; DATES: 1718-1732; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443802;
Ysabel CORREAS GONZALES
Christening: 16 FEB 1711
PARENTS: Andres CORREAS and Thomasa GONZALES
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: C600893; DATES: 1704-1718; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443801;
Andres Martines CORREAS
Thomasa GONSALES
Marriage: 14 JUL 1711
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
(1st Marraige)
Nicolas DE LLAMAS
PARENTS: Matheo DE LLAMAS and Maria GONSALES
Barbara DE ABILA
PARENTS: Diego DE ABILA and Nicolasa SALSEDO
Marriage: 6 JUN 1740
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
(2nd Marraige)
Nicolas DE LLAMAS
Andrea Bonifacia MARTINEZ CORREA
PARENTS: Andres MARTINEZ CORREA and Tomaza GONZALES
Marriage: 2 JUL 1753
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
Let me know if you have any questions on all of that. Also how do you know Andrea is the daughter of Antonio de Miramontes and Maria de Esquibel? What document did that come from?
Thanks for you help,
Angie Godina
Hopefully this all make sense…here it goes:
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 472, Entry 2358
Guadalajara, Jal. Mayo 5 de 1753. Exp. 170. – Dispensa de tercero con cuarto grado de afinidad por copula licita. – Nicolas de Llamas, originario y vecino del Pueblo de Taltenango y residente en esta Ciudad de Guadalajara, hijo legitimo de Matheo de Llamas y de Maria Gonzalez, viudo de Barbara de Avila; con Andrea Correa, espanola, originaria y vecina de dicho Pueblo de Taltenango, hija legitima de Andres Correa y de Thomasa Gonzalez. Declaracion del pretenso: Andrea de Miramontes e Isabel de Miramontes, eran hermanas, de la dicha Andrea resulto Antonio Salcedo y de este procedio Nicolas Salcedo, y de este mi difunta esposa Barbara de Avila, y de Isabel de Miramontes procedio Andres Correa, y de este mi pretensa. Se otorgo la dispensa en la Ciudad de Guadalajara, en 5 de mayo de 1753, para que los case el Cura del Pueblo de Taltenango. 3 fojas.
–Nicolas de Llamas first wife Barbara Avila great grandaughter of Andrea Miramontes
Barbara Avila > Nicolasa De Salcedo > Antonio Salcedo > Andrea Miramontes
–Second wife Andrea Correa grandaughter of Ysabel Miramontes
Andrea Correa > Andres Correa > Ysabel Miramontes
Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara, Montejano Hilton, Maria de la Luz, 427, Entry 2185
Guadalajara, Jal. Marzo 6 de 1751. Exp. 29. – Dispensa de cuarto grado puro de consanguinidad. – Feliciano de los Santos de Avila, espanol, originario y vecino de la feligresia del Pueblo de Taltenango y residente en esta Ciudad de Guadalajara, hijo legitimo de Diego de Avila y de Nicolasa Salcedo; con Isabel Thomasa Magallanes, espanola, originaria y vecina de la misma feligresia de Taltenango, hija legitima de Cristobal Magallanes y de Isabel Correa. Declaracion del pretenso: Nicolasa de Miramontes(**) y Andrea de Miramontes, fueron hermanas, de la dicha Andrea procedio Antonio Salcedo, y de este Nicolasa Salcedo, y de esta yo, y de la dicha Nicolasa de Miramontes procedio Andres Correa, y de este Isabel Correa, y de esta la pretensa. Se otorgo la dispensa en la Ciudad de Guadalajara, en 6 de Marzo de 1751, para que los case el Cura propio del Pueblo de Taltenango. 4 fojas.
**Nicolasa Miramontes should actually be Ysabel Miramontes, since Ysabel is the mother of Andres Correa from above and IGI.
–Feliciano de los Santos de Avila is the great grandson of Andrea Miramontes and also the brother to Barbara Avila from above.
Feliciano Avila > Nicolasa De Salcedo > Antonio Salcedo > Andrea Miramontes
–Isabel Thomasa Magallanes is the great granddaughter of Ysabel Miramontes.
Isabel Magallanes > Ysabel Correa > Andres Correa > Ysabel Miramontes
As a note the Correa(s) surname is also sometimes written Martinez Correa(s) or sometimes just Martinez.
From IGI:
Feliciano de los Santos AVILA
PARENTS: Diego DE AVILA and Nicolasa SALCEDO
Thomasa Ysabel DE MAGALLANES
PARENTS: Christoval DE MAGALLANES and Ysabel MARTINES
Marriage: 21 APR 1751
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
NAME: Feliciano de los Santos AVILA SALZEDO
Christening: 12 NOV 1731
PARENTS: Diego DE AVILA and Nicolasa SALZEDO
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: J600894; DATES: 1718-1732; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443802;
Thomasa Ysabel MAGALLANES MARTINZ.
Christening: 2 JAN 1732
PARENTS: Xptoval DE MAGALLANES and Ysabel MARTINZ. CORREAS
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: K600894; DATES: 1718-1732; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443802;
Ysabel CORREAS GONZALES
Christening: 16 FEB 1711
PARENTS: Andres CORREAS and Thomasa GONZALES
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: C600893; DATES: 1704-1718; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443801;
Andres Martines CORREAS
Thomasa GONSALES
Marriage: 14 JUL 1711
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
(1st Marraige)
Nicolas DE LLAMAS
PARENTS: Matheo DE LLAMAS and Maria GONSALES
Barbara DE ABILA
PARENTS: Diego DE ABILA and Nicolasa SALSEDO
Marriage: 6 JUN 1740
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
(2nd Marraige)
Nicolas DE LLAMAS
Andrea Bonifacia MARTINEZ CORREA
PARENTS: Andres MARTINEZ CORREA and Tomaza GONZALES
Marriage: 2 JUL 1753
LOCATION: Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
BATCH NUMBER: M607139; DATES: 1704-1754; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443968;
Let me know if you have any questions on all of that. Also how do you know Andrea is the daughter of Antonio de Miramontes and Maria de Esquibel? What document did that come from?
Thanks for you help,
Angie Godina
Andrea and Isabel Miramontes appear in IGI with their father as Antonio de Miramontes… They are in the Tlaltenango Families GEDCOM so you can trace them all the way back to the original Juan de Miramontes and Cecilia Lopez. I wrote an article about Cecilia Lopez which appeared in the June or July issue of Somos Primos.
International Genealogical Index / Mexico
Father: Antonio Miramontes
Batch Number: C600891
1. YSABEL MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1643 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
2. MARIA MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 SEP 1652 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
3. BALTHASSAR MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 JAN 1639 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
4. JUAN MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JUN 1641 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
5. CHRISTOBAL MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1656 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
6. ANDREA MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 DEC 1648 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
7. ANTONIA MIRAMONTEZ ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 APR 1635 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
Andrea and Isabel Miramontes appear in IGI with their father as Antonio de Miramontes… They are in the Tlaltenango Families GEDCOM so you can trace them all the way back to the original Juan de Miramontes and Cecilia Lopez. I wrote an article about Cecilia Lopez which appeared in the June or July issue of Somos Primos.
International Genealogical Index / Mexico
Father: Antonio Miramontes
Batch Number: C600891
1. YSABEL MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1643 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
2. MARIA MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 SEP 1652 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
3. BALTHASSAR MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 JAN 1639 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
4. JUAN MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 JUN 1641 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
5. CHRISTOBAL MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1656 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
6. ANDREA MIRAMONTES ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 DEC 1648 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
7. ANTONIA MIRAMONTEZ ESQUIBEL – International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 APR 1635 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico
I read about you transcribing a film “Tlaltenango Marriages 1600s”. Have you finished it yet? I am very interested in the Haro, Hurtado, Santiago names. Also I see where it is stated that the Miramontes and Haors seem to be inter-mixed in families. In Spain there is an old town called HARO and is in the northern wine country. My research shows the Haro name is very common in Spain – like Jones or Smith in the USA. However in Mexico it is not common.
Thank You for your work
Linnie
