Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now, I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780 census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ. When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ, brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA, who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
juanita delgado wrote:
Arturo,
I was so excited to read your information I forgot to ask some pertinent questions.
Are the films you mention from LDS?
I do realize the amount of time and deciphering you have to do with those films. I ordered one film and it was sent to Santa Barbara and I have to be honest. I did not stay long enough on it. It was not the best film. But I will certainly give it another shot.I am really very
interested in getting to the roots. The rest was sort of easy, tracing the DELGADO that came down to the TEXAS COAST, to TAMAULIPAS, NUEVO LEON and then ZACATECAS.
I found great information in the book FUNDADORES de NUEVO LEON, in our library.
Another question: In the Expediente 99, Informacion matrimonial: Juana Delgado Valenzuela, originaria de la Arjonilla, Obispado de Jaen en los Reinos de Castilla.Where would that be? Spain, or in New Spain?
Also, how did you retrieve this information so fast? Now you can see how “dumb” I am.
Juanita G. Delgado
arturoramos wrote:
Juanita:
I have been reading your messages to other members where you are looking for information on the Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas. I was just looking at your file folder and it is very difficult to understand. Do you think you could put it into a pedigree, register or some other standardized format so that other members can better understand the relationships between the people listed?
It looks like you have already gotten pretty far back, but only on one lineage. It is sometimes helpful to expand a bit horizontally, as you will find that tracking the wife’s family sometimes leads to the husband’s family and vice-versa.
The Delgados were definitely in Pinos for more that one generation. I found the following entries in IGI that appears to be the baptism records for a brothers of Bartolome Delgado, born in 1684 and 1687. I imagine that their parents were married sometime around 1680. There is a Salvador Delgado who was married to a Maria de Contreras and having children around the same time which would lead me to believe that both the Contreras and Delgados were in Pinos. It may be worth ordering the film to see if there is any more information that you can gather from these baptism records.
JUAN DELGADO CHAVEZ
Christening: 05 AUG 1687 San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, Mexico
Parents:
Father: FRANCISCO DELGADO Family
Mother: PETRONILA DE CHAVEZ
Source Information:
Batch No.: J601461 Film No. 1095293
JOSEPH FRANCISCO DELGADO CHAVEZ
Christening: 03 DEC 1684 San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, Mexico
Parents:
Father: FRANCISCO DELGADO Family
Mother: PETRONA DE CHAVEZ
Batch No.: J601461 Film No. 1095293
Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now, I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780 census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ. When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ, brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA, who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
juanita delgado wrote:
Arturo,
I was so excited to read your information I forgot to ask some pertinent questions.
Are the films you mention from LDS?
I do realize the amount of time and deciphering you have to do with those films. I ordered one film and it was sent to Santa Barbara and I have to be honest. I did not stay long enough on it. It was not the best film. But I will certainly give it another shot.I am really very
interested in getting to the roots. The rest was sort of easy, tracing the DELGADO that came down to the TEXAS COAST, to TAMAULIPAS, NUEVO LEON and then ZACATECAS.
I found great information in the book FUNDADORES de NUEVO LEON, in our library.
Another question: In the Expediente 99, Informacion matrimonial: Juana Delgado Valenzuela, originaria de la Arjonilla, Obispado de Jaen en los Reinos de Castilla.Where would that be? Spain, or in New Spain?
Also, how did you retrieve this information so fast? Now you can see how “dumb” I am.
Juanita G. Delgado
arturoramos wrote:
Juanita:
I have been reading your messages to other members where you are looking for information on the Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas. I was just looking at your file folder and it is very difficult to understand. Do you think you could put it into a pedigree, register or some other standardized format so that other members can better understand the relationships between the people listed?
It looks like you have already gotten pretty far back, but only on one lineage. It is sometimes helpful to expand a bit horizontally, as you will find that tracking the wife’s family sometimes leads to the husband’s family and vice-versa.
The Delgados were definitely in Pinos for more that one generation. I found the following entries in IGI that appears to be the baptism records for a brothers of Bartolome Delgado, born in 1684 and 1687. I imagine that their parents were married sometime around 1680. There is a Salvador Delgado who was married to a Maria de Contreras and having children around the same time which would lead me to believe that both the Contreras and Delgados were in Pinos. It may be worth ordering the film to see if there is any more information that you can gather from these baptism records.
JUAN DELGADO CHAVEZ
Christening: 05 AUG 1687 San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, Mexico
Parents:
Father: FRANCISCO DELGADO Family
Mother: PETRONILA DE CHAVEZ
Source Information:
Batch No.: J601461 Film No. 1095293
JOSEPH FRANCISCO DELGADO CHAVEZ
Christening: 03 DEC 1684 San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, Mexico
Parents:
Father: FRANCISCO DELGADO Family
Mother: PETRONA DE CHAVEZ
Batch No.: J601461 Film No. 1095293
Juanita (and other new members):
While it is somewhat difficult to understand the standardized genealogy reports at first, it is really worthwhile to try to use them from the onset. The easiest way to do that is to simply download PAF or some other free genealogy software and enter the names, dates, place names AND SOURCES that you have. The software produces any one of the reports Joseph and I have mentioned, i.e. Ahnentafel, register, etc.
Once you start seeing the way the software organizes and reports the information you will start seeing the logic behind them.
The Ahnentafel and Pedigree reports go backward (ancestors of a person with each generation having twice as many people as the previous), while the register format goes forward, showing the descendants of a person, with each generation having less or more (usually) than the previous. If you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide, there are examples of all of these types of reports in an Appendix.
Juanita, all of the films that I listed are available through the Family History Library and you can order them at your local Family History Center. While they may be hard to read and in some cases the information may be difficult to locate on the film, it is really the ONLY way to do serious genealogy. Taking information from books is often unreliable and leads to selective “borrowing” of research rather than original research focused on what you are genuinely interested in. Genealogy is not easy work, but if you have the passion and will, you need to just stick to it. It gets easier reading the handwriting and scanning through films as time goes on.
The baptisms should be organized chronologically so they should be easy to find. The informacion matrimonial will likewise be chronological and since you don’t have the date, you will have to spend some time scanning the probably year range but it will be well worth it once you find the information. The dispensa matrimonial (Sagrada Mitra) is a bit disorganized but I can send you context information that should make it easier to find the right section of the film.
The way I found all of this information was simply by using the Films section of the Nuestros Ranchos website, which has all of the batch numbers for Pinos, Zacatecas listed. Just click on the IGI button next to any of them and it will give you all of the names on the film, then you can limit the list of names by surname, father’s name, etc.
The Sagrada Mitra entry is from Luz Montejano’s book which is probably the singular most valuable publication for genealogists focused on our region.
I am glad that I could be of help. I only ask that as your research progresses you share it with others. A sort of gift forward. One crucial step for this is learning to organize the information in a manner that is useful for others.
Juanita (and other new members):
While it is somewhat difficult to understand the standardized genealogy reports at first, it is really worthwhile to try to use them from the onset. The easiest way to do that is to simply download PAF or some other free genealogy software and enter the names, dates, place names AND SOURCES that you have. The software produces any one of the reports Joseph and I have mentioned, i.e. Ahnentafel, register, etc.
Once you start seeing the way the software organizes and reports the information you will start seeing the logic behind them.
The Ahnentafel and Pedigree reports go backward (ancestors of a person with each generation having twice as many people as the previous), while the register format goes forward, showing the descendants of a person, with each generation having less or more (usually) than the previous. If you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide, there are examples of all of these types of reports in an Appendix.
Juanita, all of the films that I listed are available through the Family History Library and you can order them at your local Family History Center. While they may be hard to read and in some cases the information may be difficult to locate on the film, it is really the ONLY way to do serious genealogy. Taking information from books is often unreliable and leads to selective “borrowing” of research rather than original research focused on what you are genuinely interested in. Genealogy is not easy work, but if you have the passion and will, you need to just stick to it. It gets easier reading the handwriting and scanning through films as time goes on.
The baptisms should be organized chronologically so they should be easy to find. The informacion matrimonial will likewise be chronological and since you don’t have the date, you will have to spend some time scanning the probably year range but it will be well worth it once you find the information. The dispensa matrimonial (Sagrada Mitra) is a bit disorganized but I can send you context information that should make it easier to find the right section of the film.
The way I found all of this information was simply by using the Films section of the Nuestros Ranchos website, which has all of the batch numbers for Pinos, Zacatecas listed. Just click on the IGI button next to any of them and it will give you all of the names on the film, then you can limit the list of names by surname, father’s name, etc.
The Sagrada Mitra entry is from Luz Montejano’s book which is probably the singular most valuable publication for genealogists focused on our region.
I am glad that I could be of help. I only ask that as your research progresses you share it with others. A sort of gift forward. One crucial step for this is learning to organize the information in a manner that is useful for others.
Arturo,
Again, many thanks!!!!!! I AM familiar with the types of records you mentioned, as I had my genealogy, backto the DARK AGES, if you can believe that, done by CHRIS RENDON. He is extremely knowledgable, like you, He is coordinator, or something like that, for SAGA. I actually met him in SANTA BARBARA last year, and hope to see him again in Spring..
You sent me a gold mine. And, yes, I would be most happy to share all I have – 10 generations, so I am going to do what you suggest and hope I can do it.I have been working on this name for years so I cannot just let it go. Once these people got to Tamaulipas in the early 1700’s, it was almost like a piece of cake.
I am just jumping with joy!! Thanks!
Juanita G. Delgado
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbarturoramos wrote:
Juanita (and other new members):
While it is somewhat difficult to understand the standardized genealogy reports at first, it is really worthwhile to try to use them from the onset. The easiest way to do that is to simply download PAF or some other free genealogy software and enter the names, dates, place names AND SOURCES that you have. The software produces any one of the reports Joseph and I have mentioned, i.e. Ahnentafel, register, etc.
Once you start seeing the way the software organizes and reports the information you will start seeing the logic behind them.
The Ahnentafel and Pedigree reports go backward (ancestors of a person with each generation having twice as many people as the previous), while the register format goes forward, showing the descendants of a person, with each generation having less or more (usually) than the previous. If you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide, there are examples of all of these types of reports in an Appendix.
Juanita, all of the films that I listed are available through the Family History Library and you can order them at your local Family History Center. While they may be hard to read and in some cases the information may be difficult to locate on the film, it is really the ONLY way to do serious genealogy. Taking information from books is often unreliable and leads to selective “borrowing” of research rather than original research focused on what you are genuinely interested in. Genealogy is not easy work, but if you have the passion and will, you need to just stick to it. It gets easier reading the handwriting and scanning through films as time goes on.
The baptisms should be organized chronologically so they should be easy to find. The informacion matrimonial will likewise be chronological and since you don’t have the date, you will have to spend some time scanning the probably year range but it will be well worth it once you find the information. The dispensa matrimonial (Sagrada Mitra) is a bit disorganized but I can send you context information that should make it easier to find the right section of the film.
The way I found all of this information was simply by using the Films section of the Nuestros Ranchos website, which has all of the batch numbers for Pinos, Zacatecas listed. Just click on the IGI button next to any of them and it will give you all of the names on the film, then you can limit the list of names by surname, father’s name, etc.
The Sagrada Mitra entry is from Luz Montejano’s book which is probably the singular most valuable publication for genealogists focused on our region.
I am glad that I could be of help. I only ask that as your research progresses you share it with others. A sort of gift forward. One crucial step for this is learning to organize the information in a manner that is useful for others.
Arturo,
Again, many thanks!!!!!! I AM familiar with the types of records you mentioned, as I had my genealogy, backto the DARK AGES, if you can believe that, done by CHRIS RENDON. He is extremely knowledgable, like you, He is coordinator, or something like that, for SAGA. I actually met him in SANTA BARBARA last year, and hope to see him again in Spring..
You sent me a gold mine. And, yes, I would be most happy to share all I have – 10 generations, so I am going to do what you suggest and hope I can do it.I have been working on this name for years so I cannot just let it go. Once these people got to Tamaulipas in the early 1700’s, it was almost like a piece of cake.
I am just jumping with joy!! Thanks!
Juanita G. Delgado
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbarturoramos wrote:
Juanita (and other new members):
While it is somewhat difficult to understand the standardized genealogy reports at first, it is really worthwhile to try to use them from the onset. The easiest way to do that is to simply download PAF or some other free genealogy software and enter the names, dates, place names AND SOURCES that you have. The software produces any one of the reports Joseph and I have mentioned, i.e. Ahnentafel, register, etc.
Once you start seeing the way the software organizes and reports the information you will start seeing the logic behind them.
The Ahnentafel and Pedigree reports go backward (ancestors of a person with each generation having twice as many people as the previous), while the register format goes forward, showing the descendants of a person, with each generation having less or more (usually) than the previous. If you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide, there are examples of all of these types of reports in an Appendix.
Juanita, all of the films that I listed are available through the Family History Library and you can order them at your local Family History Center. While they may be hard to read and in some cases the information may be difficult to locate on the film, it is really the ONLY way to do serious genealogy. Taking information from books is often unreliable and leads to selective “borrowing” of research rather than original research focused on what you are genuinely interested in. Genealogy is not easy work, but if you have the passion and will, you need to just stick to it. It gets easier reading the handwriting and scanning through films as time goes on.
The baptisms should be organized chronologically so they should be easy to find. The informacion matrimonial will likewise be chronological and since you don’t have the date, you will have to spend some time scanning the probably year range but it will be well worth it once you find the information. The dispensa matrimonial (Sagrada Mitra) is a bit disorganized but I can send you context information that should make it easier to find the right section of the film.
The way I found all of this information was simply by using the Films section of the Nuestros Ranchos website, which has all of the batch numbers for Pinos, Zacatecas listed. Just click on the IGI button next to any of them and it will give you all of the names on the film, then you can limit the list of names by surname, father’s name, etc.
The Sagrada Mitra entry is from Luz Montejano’s book which is probably the singular most valuable publication for genealogists focused on our region.
I am glad that I could be of help. I only ask that as your research progresses you share it with others. A sort of gift forward. One crucial step for this is learning to organize the information in a manner that is useful for others.
Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
Your newest prima,
Josie in San Antonio
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
Your newest prima,
Josie in San Antonio
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
JOSIE, MI PRIMA,
SOMETIMES I THINK I TALK TOO MUCH, BUT I SEE IT PAYS OFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!i IF I HADN’T DISCUSSED THAT PART WITH ARTURO, WE MIGHT NEVER HAVE KNOWN WE ARE ALSO RELATED IN ANOTHER WAY. SHUCKS!!!! LIKE MY SON SAYS(HE’S NOT TOO MUCH IN GENEALOGY), MOM, WE KNOW WE ARE ALL RELATED – LIKE THINK, ADAM AND EVE. LAUGH PLEASE. THERE’S NOTHING LIKE DOING YOUR OWN FINDINGS AND RESEARCH TO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT IS GOING DOWN ON PAPER.
I HAVE HAD PEOPLE LOOK AT MY PAPERS AND THEY GO, WOW!, BUT IT CAN’T MEAN THE SAME TO THEM AS IT MEANS TO ME. I JUST LOVE, LOVE THESE PEOPLE I AM FINDING, FROM ONE OR TWO HUNDRED YEARS BACK. ACTUALLY, I WILL CONFESS THAT IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES WHEN I DISCOVER SOMEONE NEW, I WISH I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEM, AND HAVE PICTURES, ETC. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR NAMES WILL HAVE TO SUFFICE, BUT I WRITE OUT WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THEM WITH SOMEWHAT A REVERENCE FOR THEM. MY ANCESTORS.
YES, WE’LL COMMUNITATE PRIVATELY.
TU PRIMA JUANITA
“Josie T. Trevino” wrote:
Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
Your newest prima,
Josie in San Antonio
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
JOSIE, MI PRIMA,
SOMETIMES I THINK I TALK TOO MUCH, BUT I SEE IT PAYS OFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!i IF I HADN’T DISCUSSED THAT PART WITH ARTURO, WE MIGHT NEVER HAVE KNOWN WE ARE ALSO RELATED IN ANOTHER WAY. SHUCKS!!!! LIKE MY SON SAYS(HE’S NOT TOO MUCH IN GENEALOGY), MOM, WE KNOW WE ARE ALL RELATED – LIKE THINK, ADAM AND EVE. LAUGH PLEASE. THERE’S NOTHING LIKE DOING YOUR OWN FINDINGS AND RESEARCH TO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT IS GOING DOWN ON PAPER.
I HAVE HAD PEOPLE LOOK AT MY PAPERS AND THEY GO, WOW!, BUT IT CAN’T MEAN THE SAME TO THEM AS IT MEANS TO ME. I JUST LOVE, LOVE THESE PEOPLE I AM FINDING, FROM ONE OR TWO HUNDRED YEARS BACK. ACTUALLY, I WILL CONFESS THAT IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES WHEN I DISCOVER SOMEONE NEW, I WISH I KNEW MORE ABOUT THEM, AND HAVE PICTURES, ETC. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR NAMES WILL HAVE TO SUFFICE, BUT I WRITE OUT WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT THEM WITH SOMEWHAT A REVERENCE FOR THEM. MY ANCESTORS.
YES, WE’LL COMMUNITATE PRIVATELY.
TU PRIMA JUANITA
“Josie T. Trevino” wrote:
Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
Your newest prima,
Josie in San Antonio
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
Arturo,
Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
I’ll never be finished”.
I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
do tell a lot.
And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
who
married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
You are so right.
Thanks for listening.
Juanita G. Delgado
Prima, Prima, yes time to tune up the guitarones and for John Robles to
get the band together there is some celebrating to do as another
connection has been made.
Many many many congratulations to you Juanita and Josie for finding each
other. Families that had been lost for 200 years have found each other.
who’s making the menudo?
joseph
===================
Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
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Josie T. Trevino wrote:
> Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
> my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
> our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
>
> Your newest prima,
>
> Josie in San Antonio
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
> delgado
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
>
> Arturo,
>
> Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
> avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
> I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
> I’ll never be finished”.
>
> I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
> census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
> When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
> brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
> do tell a lot.
>
> And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
> who
> married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
> with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
>
> You are so right.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Juanita G. Delgado
>
>
>
Prima, Prima, yes time to tune up the guitarones and for John Robles to
get the band together there is some celebrating to do as another
connection has been made.
Many many many congratulations to you Juanita and Josie for finding each
other. Families that had been lost for 200 years have found each other.
who’s making the menudo?
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
Josie T. Trevino wrote:
> Juanita…….you and I connect on the Juan Bautista Sanchez line!!! He is
> my direct ancestor also!!! I will write to you directly so we can compare
> our info since it is in Tamaulipas, ok?
>
> Your newest prima,
>
> Josie in San Antonio
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
> delgado
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:06 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Delgados of Pinos, Zacatecas
>
> Arturo,
>
> Yes, you are so right about researching horizontally. I think I sort of
> avoided that since I was working on three different lineages, and I thought
> I couldn’t afford to spend mroe time on any new people. I thought, “Now,
> I’ll never be finished”.
>
> I did just a couple of times: I found JUAN JOSEPH DELGADO in the 1780
> census of REVILLA, TAMAULIPAS, who’s wife was MARIA MARGARITA SANCHEZ DIAZ.
> When I looked up more on her I found her father was JUAN BAUTISTA SANCHEZ,
> brother of TOMAS SANCHEZ, the founder of LAREDO, MEXICO.Those censuses sure
> do tell a lot.
>
> And I really went back to the ancestry of MARIA JOSEFA GUTIERREZ de LARA,
> who
> married my ggggg grpa, JOSEPH MARIA TAMAYO y LUNA. I ran into a sonewall
> with his ancestry, but found lots on her.
>
> You are so right.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Juanita G. Delgado
>
>
>
I make a mean pot of menudo, Joseph……..let me know when you are down in
San Antonio and I will fire up the stove!
Josie
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:31 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Newest Prima!!!: was- Delgados of Pinos,
Zacatecas
Prima, Prima, yes time to tune up the guitarones and for John Robles to get
the band together there is some celebrating to do as another connection has
been made.
Many many many congratulations to you Juanita and Josie for finding each
other. Families that had been lost for 200 years have found each other.
who’s making the menudo?
joseph
I make a mean pot of menudo, Joseph……..let me know when you are down in
San Antonio and I will fire up the stove!
Josie
—–Original Message—–
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:31 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Newest Prima!!!: was- Delgados of Pinos,
Zacatecas
Prima, Prima, yes time to tune up the guitarones and for John Robles to get
the band together there is some celebrating to do as another connection has
been made.
Many many many congratulations to you Juanita and Josie for finding each
other. Families that had been lost for 200 years have found each other.
who’s making the menudo?
joseph
