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Hi, Arturo,

 

I hope you get this post.  This is the first time for me posting
directly to the new website.

 

I found a post by a Jaime A. Holcombe in Mexico City who says he is the son
of a Jaime Jose Holcombe who spent his life in serach of their ancestors in
Mexico and Europe.  I sent him an e-mail, although the e-mail address is
from 1999. It is still an active address since it has not kicked back to
me.

 

I am very interested in the Escobedos and the Talamantes, since I am a
descendant of some Escobedos in Zacatecas, and my husband is a descendant of
some Talamanteses in Aguascalientes/Jalisco.

 

I think this Jaime is the repository of all his father’s works because he
mentions going through his father’s things and finding information such as that
they are descended from a Sir John Holcomb who was knighted by Richard
Lionheart.  Wow!

 

Emilie Garcia’

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 2:30 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

I hope you get this post.  This is the first time for me posting
directly to the new website.

 

I found a post by a Jaime A. Holcombe in Mexico City who says he is the son
of a Jaime Jose Holcombe who spent his life in serach of their ancestors in
Mexico and Europe.  I sent him an e-mail, although the e-mail address is
from 1999. It is still an active address since it has not kicked back to
me.

 

I am very interested in the Escobedos and the Talamantes, since I am a
descendant of some Escobedos in Zacatecas, and my husband is a descendant of
some Talamanteses in Aguascalientes/Jalisco.

 

I think this Jaime is the repository of all his father’s works because he
mentions going through his father’s things and finding information such as that
they are descended from a Sir John Holcomb who was knighted by Richard
Lionheart.  Wow!

 

Emilie Garcia’

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 2:30 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

I hope you get this post.  This is the first time for me posting
directly to the new website.

 

I found a post by a Jaime A. Holcombe in Mexico City who says he is the son
of a Jaime Jose Holcombe who spent his life in serach of their ancestors in
Mexico and Europe.  I sent him an e-mail, although the e-mail address is
from 1999. It is still an active address since it has not kicked back to
me.

 

I am very interested in the Escobedos and the Talamantes, since I am a
descendant of some Escobedos in Zacatecas, and my husband is a descendant of
some Talamanteses in Aguascalientes/Jalisco.

 

I think this Jaime is the repository of all his father’s works because he
mentions going through his father’s things and finding information such as that
they are descended from a Sir John Holcomb who was knighted by Richard
Lionheart.  Wow!

 

Emilie Garcia’

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 2:30 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

The e-mail I sent to Jaime A. Holcombe, the son of the researcher, just got
kicked back to me since it is no longer a valid e-mail address.

 

Maybe we can get Jose Luis in Mexico DF to try and find this fellow? 
Also wouldn’t all his father’s work be in the Archivos Nacional there?

 

I really would like to see what there is on the Escobedo and Talamantes
line. 

 

Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 3:15 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

The e-mail I sent to Jaime A. Holcombe, the son of the researcher, just got
kicked back to me since it is no longer a valid e-mail address.

 

Maybe we can get Jose Luis in Mexico DF to try and find this fellow? 
Also wouldn’t all his father’s work be in the Archivos Nacional there?

 

I really would like to see what there is on the Escobedo and Talamantes
line. 

 

Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 3:15 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

The e-mail I sent to Jaime A. Holcombe, the son of the researcher, just got
kicked back to me since it is no longer a valid e-mail address.

 

Maybe we can get Jose Luis in Mexico DF to try and find this fellow? 
Also wouldn’t all his father’s work be in the Archivos Nacional there?

 

I really would like to see what there is on the Escobedo and Talamantes
line. 

 

Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 3:15 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 


Hi, Arturo,

 

The e-mail I sent to Jaime A. Holcombe, the son of the researcher, just got
kicked back to me since it is no longer a valid e-mail address.

 

Maybe we can get Jose Luis in Mexico DF to try and find this fellow? 
Also wouldn’t all his father’s work be in the Archivos Nacional there?

 

I really would like to see what there is on the Escobedo and Talamantes
line. 

 

Thanks,

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 3:15 am
(@arturoramos)
Posts: 1343
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Emilie:

Thank you so much for your efforts in trying to locate the repository of Jaime Holcombe’s work. How far back are you with your Escobedo ancestry? I have a lot of information on this family that I have collected in hopes of connecting with my own ancestors.

Maria de Covarrubias was married to Francisco de Escobedo, son of Hernando de Escobedo and founder of San Andres del Astillero which came to be known as Monte Escobedo. They (Maria Covarrubias and Francisco de Escobedo) had a number of children that appear in their will: María de Covarrubias, Ana de Escobedo, Francisca de Covarrubias, Juan de Escobedo, Isabel de Rodas, Antonia de Covarrubias y Francisco de Escobedo.

Juan de Escobedo here is (I believe) the founder of Juanacatic (that came to be known as Villa Guerrero, Jalisco) and this Isabel de Rodas is (according to a confusing set of facts attributed to Jaime Holcombe) the same Isabel de Covarrubias that married a certain Captain Jacinto de Talamantes and whose offspring were the first Spanish settlers of what came to be known as Totatiche… Juan, Lucas and Pedro de Covarrubias Talamantes as well as an Isabel de Talamantes who is later found in Parral, Chihuahua.

The senior Maria de Covarrubias that married Francisco de Escobedo was the granddaughter of Francisco de Covarrubias, one of the first treasurers of the Caja de Zacatecas.

Did you know that the founders of Culver City, California were Talamantes from Aguascalientes?

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 4:25 am
(@arturoramos)
Posts: 1343
Member Admin
 

Emilie:

Thank you so much for your efforts in trying to locate the repository of Jaime Holcombe’s work. How far back are you with your Escobedo ancestry? I have a lot of information on this family that I have collected in hopes of connecting with my own ancestors.

Maria de Covarrubias was married to Francisco de Escobedo, son of Hernando de Escobedo and founder of San Andres del Astillero which came to be known as Monte Escobedo. They (Maria Covarrubias and Francisco de Escobedo) had a number of children that appear in their will: María de Covarrubias, Ana de Escobedo, Francisca de Covarrubias, Juan de Escobedo, Isabel de Rodas, Antonia de Covarrubias y Francisco de Escobedo.

Juan de Escobedo here is (I believe) the founder of Juanacatic (that came to be known as Villa Guerrero, Jalisco) and this Isabel de Rodas is (according to a confusing set of facts attributed to Jaime Holcombe) the same Isabel de Covarrubias that married a certain Captain Jacinto de Talamantes and whose offspring were the first Spanish settlers of what came to be known as Totatiche… Juan, Lucas and Pedro de Covarrubias Talamantes as well as an Isabel de Talamantes who is later found in Parral, Chihuahua.

The senior Maria de Covarrubias that married Francisco de Escobedo was the granddaughter of Francisco de Covarrubias, one of the first treasurers of the Caja de Zacatecas.

Did you know that the founders of Culver City, California were Talamantes from Aguascalientes?

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 4:25 am
(@arturoramos)
Posts: 1343
Member Admin
 

Emilie:

Thank you so much for your efforts in trying to locate the repository of Jaime Holcombe’s work. How far back are you with your Escobedo ancestry? I have a lot of information on this family that I have collected in hopes of connecting with my own ancestors.

Maria de Covarrubias was married to Francisco de Escobedo, son of Hernando de Escobedo and founder of San Andres del Astillero which came to be known as Monte Escobedo. They (Maria Covarrubias and Francisco de Escobedo) had a number of children that appear in their will: María de Covarrubias, Ana de Escobedo, Francisca de Covarrubias, Juan de Escobedo, Isabel de Rodas, Antonia de Covarrubias y Francisco de Escobedo.

Juan de Escobedo here is (I believe) the founder of Juanacatic (that came to be known as Villa Guerrero, Jalisco) and this Isabel de Rodas is (according to a confusing set of facts attributed to Jaime Holcombe) the same Isabel de Covarrubias that married a certain Captain Jacinto de Talamantes and whose offspring were the first Spanish settlers of what came to be known as Totatiche… Juan, Lucas and Pedro de Covarrubias Talamantes as well as an Isabel de Talamantes who is later found in Parral, Chihuahua.

The senior Maria de Covarrubias that married Francisco de Escobedo was the granddaughter of Francisco de Covarrubias, one of the first treasurers of the Caja de Zacatecas.

Did you know that the founders of Culver City, California were Talamantes from Aguascalientes?

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 4:30 am
(@arturoramos)
Posts: 1343
Member Admin
 

Emilie:

Thank you so much for your efforts in trying to locate the repository of Jaime Holcombe’s work. How far back are you with your Escobedo ancestry? I have a lot of information on this family that I have collected in hopes of connecting with my own ancestors.

Maria de Covarrubias was married to Francisco de Escobedo, son of Hernando de Escobedo and founder of San Andres del Astillero which came to be known as Monte Escobedo. They (Maria Covarrubias and Francisco de Escobedo) had a number of children that appear in their will: María de Covarrubias, Ana de Escobedo, Francisca de Covarrubias, Juan de Escobedo, Isabel de Rodas, Antonia de Covarrubias y Francisco de Escobedo.

Juan de Escobedo here is (I believe) the founder of Juanacatic (that came to be known as Villa Guerrero, Jalisco) and this Isabel de Rodas is (according to a confusing set of facts attributed to Jaime Holcombe) the same Isabel de Covarrubias that married a certain Captain Jacinto de Talamantes and whose offspring were the first Spanish settlers of what came to be known as Totatiche… Juan, Lucas and Pedro de Covarrubias Talamantes as well as an Isabel de Talamantes who is later found in Parral, Chihuahua.

The senior Maria de Covarrubias that married Francisco de Escobedo was the granddaughter of Francisco de Covarrubias, one of the first treasurers of the Caja de Zacatecas.

Did you know that the founders of Culver City, California were Talamantes from Aguascalientes?

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 4:30 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 

Hi, Arturo,

I have not traced the Escobedo and Talamantes lines as far back as you have, but mine seem to have ended up in the same vicinity about 100 years later, I think. I have also run across the Covarrubias name in my searches in the Jerez parish.

My Escobedo ancestor is Mariana (Maria Ana) Escobedo. She was my gggg-grandmother. She also was surnamed Mata or De Mata or DelsTorre in some records. She married a Pablo Jose Suriano, and they had several children in a place called Salitrillo, and the children were baptized in Tepetongo in the parish of Jerez, Zacatecas. Her children were born between 1797 and 1825, so I think she was married around 1797 and may have been born in the 1770’s. That is as far as I have gotten with her.

My husband’s Talamantes ancestor was his ggg-grandfather, Jose de la Encarnacion Talamantes who was born in Tlaltenango (is that Jalisco or Zacatecas or Aguascalientes?). He was the son of Jose Segundo Talamantes and Maria Lucia (?) Dieguna. His first wife was Maria Gertrudis Salazar. He married my husband’s ggg-grandmother (his 2nd wife) Maria Dorotea Cerbantes in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on July 10, 1839. She was the daughter of Juan Jose Cerbantes and Juliana Rubalcaba. That is as far as I have gotten with them.

Well, maybe our Escobedos and Talamantes might be connected somehow.

No, I didn’t know that Culver City was founded by Talamantes from Aguascalientes.

I hope you find Jaime Jr. or some documents on your Escobedo/Talamante lines. Let me know if you find any resources for mine.

Thanks,

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 7:33 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 

Hi, Arturo,

I have not traced the Escobedo and Talamantes lines as far back as you have, but mine seem to have ended up in the same vicinity about 100 years later, I think. I have also run across the Covarrubias name in my searches in the Jerez parish.

My Escobedo ancestor is Mariana (Maria Ana) Escobedo. She was my gggg-grandmother. She also was surnamed Mata or De Mata or DelsTorre in some records. She married a Pablo Jose Suriano, and they had several children in a place called Salitrillo, and the children were baptized in Tepetongo in the parish of Jerez, Zacatecas. Her children were born between 1797 and 1825, so I think she was married around 1797 and may have been born in the 1770’s. That is as far as I have gotten with her.

My husband’s Talamantes ancestor was his ggg-grandfather, Jose de la Encarnacion Talamantes who was born in Tlaltenango (is that Jalisco or Zacatecas or Aguascalientes?). He was the son of Jose Segundo Talamantes and Maria Lucia (?) Dieguna. His first wife was Maria Gertrudis Salazar. He married my husband’s ggg-grandmother (his 2nd wife) Maria Dorotea Cerbantes in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on July 10, 1839. She was the daughter of Juan Jose Cerbantes and Juliana Rubalcaba. That is as far as I have gotten with them.

Well, maybe our Escobedos and Talamantes might be connected somehow.

No, I didn’t know that Culver City was founded by Talamantes from Aguascalientes.

I hope you find Jaime Jr. or some documents on your Escobedo/Talamante lines. Let me know if you find any resources for mine.

Thanks,

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 7:33 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 

Hi, Arturo,

I have not traced the Escobedo and Talamantes lines as far back as you have, but mine seem to have ended up in the same vicinity about 100 years later, I think. I have also run across the Covarrubias name in my searches in the Jerez parish.

My Escobedo ancestor is Mariana (Maria Ana) Escobedo. She was my gggg-grandmother. She also was surnamed Mata or De Mata or DelsTorre in some records. She married a Pablo Jose Suriano, and they had several children in a place called Salitrillo, and the children were baptized in Tepetongo in the parish of Jerez, Zacatecas. Her children were born between 1797 and 1825, so I think she was married around 1797 and may have been born in the 1770’s. That is as far as I have gotten with her.

My husband’s Talamantes ancestor was his ggg-grandfather, Jose de la Encarnacion Talamantes who was born in Tlaltenango (is that Jalisco or Zacatecas or Aguascalientes?). He was the son of Jose Segundo Talamantes and Maria Lucia (?) Dieguna. His first wife was Maria Gertrudis Salazar. He married my husband’s ggg-grandmother (his 2nd wife) Maria Dorotea Cerbantes in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on July 10, 1839. She was the daughter of Juan Jose Cerbantes and Juliana Rubalcaba. That is as far as I have gotten with them.

Well, maybe our Escobedos and Talamantes might be connected somehow.

No, I didn’t know that Culver City was founded by Talamantes from Aguascalientes.

I hope you find Jaime Jr. or some documents on your Escobedo/Talamante lines. Let me know if you find any resources for mine.

Thanks,

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 7:45 am
(@meef98367)
Posts: 1036
Topic starter
 

Hi, Arturo,

I have not traced the Escobedo and Talamantes lines as far back as you have, but mine seem to have ended up in the same vicinity about 100 years later, I think. I have also run across the Covarrubias name in my searches in the Jerez parish.

My Escobedo ancestor is Mariana (Maria Ana) Escobedo. She was my gggg-grandmother. She also was surnamed Mata or De Mata or DelsTorre in some records. She married a Pablo Jose Suriano, and they had several children in a place called Salitrillo, and the children were baptized in Tepetongo in the parish of Jerez, Zacatecas. Her children were born between 1797 and 1825, so I think she was married around 1797 and may have been born in the 1770’s. That is as far as I have gotten with her.

My husband’s Talamantes ancestor was his ggg-grandfather, Jose de la Encarnacion Talamantes who was born in Tlaltenango (is that Jalisco or Zacatecas or Aguascalientes?). He was the son of Jose Segundo Talamantes and Maria Lucia (?) Dieguna. His first wife was Maria Gertrudis Salazar. He married my husband’s ggg-grandmother (his 2nd wife) Maria Dorotea Cerbantes in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on July 10, 1839. She was the daughter of Juan Jose Cerbantes and Juliana Rubalcaba. That is as far as I have gotten with them.

Well, maybe our Escobedos and Talamantes might be connected somehow.

No, I didn’t know that Culver City was founded by Talamantes from Aguascalientes.

I hope you find Jaime Jr. or some documents on your Escobedo/Talamante lines. Let me know if you find any resources for mine.

Thanks,

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA —

 
Posted : 07/03/2006 7:45 am
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