My name is Fernando Pérez, my english it is not good but I will try my best.
Would you help me with my family tree?, because I don´t want to be dropped from Nuestros Ranchos.
Annex you will find my ged file.
My name is Fernando Pérez, my english it is not good but I will try my best.
Would you help me with my family tree?, because I don´t want to be dropped from Nuestros Ranchos.
Annex you will find my ged file.
Please let me know what else I can do in order to improve me family tree.
Also next month I´m going to travel to Cuquio, Jal. and see if I can get more information about my family.
Regards
Fernando Pérez
—– Original Message —-
From: Ernie Alderete
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; research@nuestrosranchos.org; announce@nuestrosranchos.org; general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:10:29 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!
For those of you about to be dropped from our roster I
would like to offer my help in organizing your family
tree, or research objectives.
I am available here in person in San Francsicso, or by
email.
I like working with historical matters.
If you have not submitted your family tree because you
don’t feel it is ready, at least let me take a look at
it.
We can work together to get you past the coming
deadline.
We are stonger as a community with you with us.
Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy and healthy
holiday.
Ernie Alderete
47 th Avenue @ Balboa
San Francisco, Ca. 94121
Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.
____________________________________________________________________________________
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Hello Ernie ,
Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to connect my great great grandmother her name is Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar . I believe that his father was from Saltillo , Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to Saltillo , I just don’t know when .
In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo: MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha: 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen: 1Expediente: 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar, su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer, por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego, Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas y Francisco de Treviño.
This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna check and see if there is any info I can use to connect the dots .
Thanks ,
Welester
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; research@nuestrosranchos.org; announce@nuestrosranchos.org; general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped from our roster I> would like to offer my help in organizing your family> tree, or research objectives.> > I am available here in person in San Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with historical matters. > > If you have not submitted your family tree because you> don’t feel it is ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We can work together to get you past the coming> deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> > Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — — — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Hello Ernie ,
Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to connect my great great grandmother her name is Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar . I believe that his father was from Saltillo , Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to Saltillo , I just don’t know when .
In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo: MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha: 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen: 1Expediente: 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar, su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer, por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego, Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas y Francisco de Treviño.
This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna check and see if there is any info I can use to connect the dots .
Thanks ,
Welester
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org; research@nuestrosranchos.org; announce@nuestrosranchos.org; general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped from our roster I> would like to offer my help in organizing your family> tree, or research objectives.> > I am available here in person in San Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with historical matters. > > If you have not submitted your family tree because you> don’t feel it is ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We can work together to get you past the coming> deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> > Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — — — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Good to hear from you. Your English is just fine!
I think I found your tree. Are your parents Miguel
Lopez Lara and Trinidad Perez? There is almost nothing
to work with in that tree.
Can you tell me where, and when your parents were
born?
If we fill in a few blanks, that should satisfy
Joseph.
Have a great time in Jalisco.
— Fernando Perez wrote:
> Ernie:
>
> My name is Fernando Pérez, my english it is not good
> but I will try my best.
>
> Would you help me with my family tree?, because I
> don´t want to be dropped from Nuestros Ranchos.
>
> Annex you will find my ged file.
>
> Please let me know what else I can do in order to
> improve me family tree.
>
> Also next month I´m going to travel to Cuquio, Jal.
> and see if I can get more information about my
> family.
>
> Regards
>
> Fernando Pérez
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —-
> From: Ernie Alderete
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org;
> research@nuestrosranchos.org;
> announce@nuestrosranchos.org;
> general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:10:29 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members
> facing the gallows!
>
>
> For those of you about to be dropped from our roster
> I
> would like to offer my help in organizing your
> family
> tree, or research objectives.
>
> I am available here in person in San Francsicso, or
> by
> email.
> I like working with historical matters.
>
> If you have not submitted your family tree because
> you
> don’t feel it is ready, at least let me take a look
> at
> it.
>
> We can work together to get you past the coming
> deadline.
> We are stonger as a community with you with us.
>
> Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy and healthy
> holiday.
>
> Ernie Alderete
> 47 th Avenue @ Balboa
> San Francisco, Ca. 94121
>
> Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.
>
>
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________
> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at
> www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.
Good to hear from you. Your English is just fine!
I think I found your tree. Are your parents Miguel
Lopez Lara and Trinidad Perez? There is almost nothing
to work with in that tree.
Can you tell me where, and when your parents were
born?
If we fill in a few blanks, that should satisfy
Joseph.
Have a great time in Jalisco.
— Fernando Perez wrote:
> Ernie:
>
> My name is Fernando Pérez, my english it is not good
> but I will try my best.
>
> Would you help me with my family tree?, because I
> don´t want to be dropped from Nuestros Ranchos.
>
> Annex you will find my ged file.
>
> Please let me know what else I can do in order to
> improve me family tree.
>
> Also next month I´m going to travel to Cuquio, Jal.
> and see if I can get more information about my
> family.
>
> Regards
>
> Fernando Pérez
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —-
> From: Ernie Alderete
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org;
> research@nuestrosranchos.org;
> announce@nuestrosranchos.org;
> general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:10:29 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members
> facing the gallows!
>
>
> For those of you about to be dropped from our roster
> I
> would like to offer my help in organizing your
> family
> tree, or research objectives.
>
> I am available here in person in San Francsicso, or
> by
> email.
> I like working with historical matters.
>
> If you have not submitted your family tree because
> you
> don’t feel it is ready, at least let me take a look
> at
> it.
>
> We can work together to get you past the coming
> deadline.
> We are stonger as a community with you with us.
>
> Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy and healthy
> holiday.
>
> Ernie Alderete
> 47 th Avenue @ Balboa
> San Francisco, Ca. 94121
>
> Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.
>
>
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________
> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at
> www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.
It’s good to hear from you.
I’ll let you know if I can dig anything up.
I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part of
my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,
Chihuahua maybe 75 years ago to open a branch of
Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.
I’ve seen newspaper clippings of them, whiter than
white!
Have you heard of them?
Happy Holdiays, Ernie.
— Lester Alvarado wrote:
> Hello Ernie ,
>
> Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to
> connect my great great grandmother her name is
> Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in
> Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar
> . I believe that his father was from Saltillo ,
> Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I
> have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to
> Saltillo , I just don’t know when .
>
> In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the
> protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here
> is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de
> Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:
> MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra
> de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:
> 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen:
> 1Expediente:
> 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego
> Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de
> Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,
> su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que
> le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,
> por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en
> las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro
> de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de
> Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,
> Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas
> y Francisco de Treviño.
>
> This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist
> in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a
> copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna
> check and see if there is any info I can use to
> connect the dots .
>
> Thanks ,
> Welester
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:
> chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:
> general@nuestrosranchos.org;
> research@nuestrosranchos.org;
> announce@nuestrosranchos.org;
> general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the
> gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped
> from our roster I> would like to offer my help in
> organizing your family> tree, or research
> objectives.> > I am available here in person in San
> Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with
> historical matters. > > If you have not submitted
> your family tree because you> don’t feel it is
> ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We
> can work together to get you past the coming>
> deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you
> with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy
> and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th
> Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> >
> Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________>
> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at
> www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — —
It’s good to hear from you.
I’ll let you know if I can dig anything up.
I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part of
my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,
Chihuahua maybe 75 years ago to open a branch of
Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.
I’ve seen newspaper clippings of them, whiter than
white!
Have you heard of them?
Happy Holdiays, Ernie.
— Lester Alvarado wrote:
> Hello Ernie ,
>
> Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to
> connect my great great grandmother her name is
> Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in
> Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar
> . I believe that his father was from Saltillo ,
> Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I
> have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to
> Saltillo , I just don’t know when .
>
> In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the
> protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here
> is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de
> Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:
> MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra
> de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:
> 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen:
> 1Expediente:
> 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego
> Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de
> Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,
> su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que
> le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,
> por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en
> las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro
> de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de
> Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,
> Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas
> y Francisco de Treviño.
>
> This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist
> in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a
> copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna
> check and see if there is any info I can use to
> connect the dots .
>
> Thanks ,
> Welester
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:
> chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:
> general@nuestrosranchos.org;
> research@nuestrosranchos.org;
> announce@nuestrosranchos.org;
> general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros
> Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the
> gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped
> from our roster I> would like to offer my help in
> organizing your family> tree, or research
> objectives.> > I am available here in person in San
> Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with
> historical matters. > > If you have not submitted
> your family tree because you> don’t feel it is
> ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We
> can work together to get you past the coming>
> deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you
> with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy
> and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th
> Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> >
> Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________>
> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at
> www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — —
Howdy Ernie ,
No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted .
Welester
> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75 years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> > Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> > > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo , I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the> > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:> > MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra> > de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:> > 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen: > > 1Expediente: > > 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego> > Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de> > Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,> > su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que> > le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,> > por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en> > las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro> > de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de> > Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,> > Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas> > y Francisco de Treviño.> > > > This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist> > in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a> > copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna> > check and see if there is any info I can use to> > connect the dots .> > > > Thanks ,> > Welester> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:> > chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:> > general@nuestrosranchos.org;> > research@nuestrosranchos.org;> > announce@nuestrosranchos.org;> > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros> > Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the> > gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped> > from our roster I> would like to offer my help in> > organizing your family> tree, or research> > objectives.> > I am available here in person in San> > Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with> > historical matters. > > If you have not submitted> > your family tree because you> don’t feel it is> > ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We> > can work together to get you past the coming>> > deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you> > with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy> > and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th> > Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> >> > Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________>> > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at> > www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — –> > — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General> > Mailing List> > To post, send email to:>> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your> > subscription, log on to:>> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> >> _________________________________________________________________> > Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it> > now!> >> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG> > — — — — — — — — — — — — — > > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > > > To post, send email to:> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > — — — — — — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Howdy Ernie ,
No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted .
Welester
> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75 years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> > Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> > > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo , I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the> > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo: Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:> > MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra> > de minaLengua: ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:> > 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: PROTOCOLOSVolumen: > > 1Expediente: > > 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don Diego> > Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de> > Saldívar, hija del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,> > su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las cuatro que> > le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,> > por donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en> > las minas de Nuestra Señora del Rosario, en el cerro> > de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de> > Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,> > Secretario. Testigos Marcos y Bernabé de las Casas> > y Francisco de Treviño.> > > > This coming monday Im going to visit the genealogist> > in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he has a> > copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna> > check and see if there is any info I can use to> > connect the dots .> > > > Thanks ,> > Welester> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:> > chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:> > general@nuestrosranchos.org;> > research@nuestrosranchos.org;> > announce@nuestrosranchos.org;> > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros> > Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the> > gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped> > from our roster I> would like to offer my help in> > organizing your family> tree, or research> > objectives.> > I am available here in person in San> > Francsicso, or by> email.> I like working with> > historical matters. > > If you have not submitted> > your family tree because you> don’t feel it is> > ready, at least let me take a look at> it. > > We> > can work together to get you past the coming>> > deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you> > with us.> > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy> > and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie Alderete> 47 th> > Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> >> > Felicidades Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________>> > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at> > www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.> — — — — –> > — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General> > Mailing List> > To post, send email to:>> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your> > subscription, log on to:>> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> >> _________________________________________________________________> > Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it> > now!> >> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG> > — — — — — — — — — — — — — > > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > > > To post, send email to:> > general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > — — — — — — — — — — — — — > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Ernie Alderete wrote:
> If we fill in a few blanks, that should satisfy
> Joseph.
>
I don’t think you are understanding. Right now there is a group for
Jalisco on Rootsweb. Right now there is a group for Zacatecas on
Rootsweb. Right now there is a group for Aguascalientes on Rootsweb. Why
was it necessary to build “Ranchos” and then “Nuestros Ranchos” since
these groups were already in existence? In fact Ernie why did you join
“Nuestros Ranchos” since these groups were already in existence?????
I think many members of the group agree with the idea of trying to keep
“Nuestros Ranchos” for those that are serious about their genealogy. So
then why the statement about satisfying “Joseph”? It’s not about
satisfying joseph it is about being serious about your research or at
least “lifting your finger” the smallest bit to imitate someone who is
serious about their research.
Also think about my “joke” of a definition of being serious:
1) agree to do your own research
2) demonstrate that by sending in a representative tree showing your
connection to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. BUT if you are
just beginning and have NOTHING to submit then submit a sample of your
family’s Oral History that indicates you have a connection to Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
The above two requirements are all it takes to become a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group. To meet those two requirements requires just
the smallest bit of effort and about 10 minutes of time. Imagine this
scenario. The laziest genealogist in the world wants to be a member of
Nuestros Ranchos because he/she doesn’t want to “lift a finger” to do a
bit of work in searching for their own roots. . .no they would much
rather find others to do the work and “prey” on those that do all the
hard work and when they find one that has tapped into one of the
branches of their tree they swoop in and gather all the information
saying thanks as they build and build and build on their genealogy
having done none of the work. *[rofs] Anyway to be a member for life
would require just opening up an email to moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
and just writing down the names of their grandparents and telling where
they were from also maybe tossing in a “guessed” date of birth and
matrimony. Now imagine that you find a person that is just not willing
to even do that or even to email the moderator and ask for an extension
because sending in that 10 minute email is just too laborious of a task
to accomplish during the holidays. Well let me tell you what, if they
are unwilling to even contact me or unmotivated to write a 10 minute
email then they don’t fit into this absurd definition of a “serious
researcher.”
Do me a favor and drop the phrase “satisfy Joseph” it offends me.
I’m trying my hardest to keep this group from becoming another Rootsweb.
. .because if it does become another Rootsweb then there is no reason
for it to exist. And believe me to drop the requirements for membership
will mean becoming just like Rootsweb.
I would like to invite every member who wants Nuestros Ranchos to be
like Rootsweb to just unsubscribe themselves and participate more on
Rootsweb. Below are the instructions for joining the Rootswebs email
lists for: Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
joseph
*[rofs] = run on fragmented sentence.
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Ernie Alderete wrote:
> If we fill in a few blanks, that should satisfy
> Joseph.
>
I don’t think you are understanding. Right now there is a group for
Jalisco on Rootsweb. Right now there is a group for Zacatecas on
Rootsweb. Right now there is a group for Aguascalientes on Rootsweb. Why
was it necessary to build “Ranchos” and then “Nuestros Ranchos” since
these groups were already in existence? In fact Ernie why did you join
“Nuestros Ranchos” since these groups were already in existence?????
I think many members of the group agree with the idea of trying to keep
“Nuestros Ranchos” for those that are serious about their genealogy. So
then why the statement about satisfying “Joseph”? It’s not about
satisfying joseph it is about being serious about your research or at
least “lifting your finger” the smallest bit to imitate someone who is
serious about their research.
Also think about my “joke” of a definition of being serious:
1) agree to do your own research
2) demonstrate that by sending in a representative tree showing your
connection to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes. BUT if you are
just beginning and have NOTHING to submit then submit a sample of your
family’s Oral History that indicates you have a connection to Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
The above two requirements are all it takes to become a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group. To meet those two requirements requires just
the smallest bit of effort and about 10 minutes of time. Imagine this
scenario. The laziest genealogist in the world wants to be a member of
Nuestros Ranchos because he/she doesn’t want to “lift a finger” to do a
bit of work in searching for their own roots. . .no they would much
rather find others to do the work and “prey” on those that do all the
hard work and when they find one that has tapped into one of the
branches of their tree they swoop in and gather all the information
saying thanks as they build and build and build on their genealogy
having done none of the work. *[rofs] Anyway to be a member for life
would require just opening up an email to moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
and just writing down the names of their grandparents and telling where
they were from also maybe tossing in a “guessed” date of birth and
matrimony. Now imagine that you find a person that is just not willing
to even do that or even to email the moderator and ask for an extension
because sending in that 10 minute email is just too laborious of a task
to accomplish during the holidays. Well let me tell you what, if they
are unwilling to even contact me or unmotivated to write a 10 minute
email then they don’t fit into this absurd definition of a “serious
researcher.”
Do me a favor and drop the phrase “satisfy Joseph” it offends me.
I’m trying my hardest to keep this group from becoming another Rootsweb.
. .because if it does become another Rootsweb then there is no reason
for it to exist. And believe me to drop the requirements for membership
will mean becoming just like Rootsweb.
I would like to invite every member who wants Nuestros Ranchos to be
like Rootsweb to just unsubscribe themselves and participate more on
Rootsweb. Below are the instructions for joining the Rootswebs email
lists for: Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
joseph
*[rofs] = run on fragmented sentence.
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http://www.registropublicocoahuila.gob.mx/ Registro de Civil COahuila
in doing research you must check death certificates for places of birth. Do you have the death certificate for Juan Jose Saldivar or a baptism? What documents do you have Quirina Saldivar Gomez and what do the documents say?
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from Lester Alvarado : ————–
> Howdy Ernie ,
> No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see
> somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center
> to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted .
>
> Welester
>
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:
> general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos
> Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know
> if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part
> of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75
> years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen
> newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> >
> Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> >
> > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect
> my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de
> Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I
> believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have
> anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo ,
> I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the>
> > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo:
> Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda
http://www.registropublicocoahuila.gob.mx/ Registro de Civil COahuila
in doing research you must check death certificates for places of birth. Do you have the death certificate for Juan Jose Saldivar or a baptism? What documents do you have Quirina Saldivar Gomez and what do the documents say?
—
Esther A. Herold
————– Original message from Lester Alvarado : ————–
> Howdy Ernie ,
> No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see
> somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center
> to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted .
>
> Welester
>
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:
> general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos
> Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know
> if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part
> of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75
> years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen
> newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> >
> Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> >
> > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect
> my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de
> Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I
> believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have
> anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo ,
> I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the>
> > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo:
> Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda
Hi there Esther ,
First off , Thanks for the help . #1. I haven’t checked on the death certificates or baptisms but I will . #2. I have the marraige certificate of Candelario Alvarado and Quirina Saldivar dated Oct. 26, 1844 married in the church of Villa de Santiago , Nuevo Leon .
In the marriage certificate it shows Juan Jose Saldivar and Maria Ygnacia Gomez as the parents of Quirina . Juan and Maria were married on Sept. 25, 1817 . I don’t have the origen of the marraige .
Here is what I have :
Quirina Saldivar Gomez : parents are Juan Jose Saldivar Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala and Maria Ygnacia Gomez Alanis
Juan Jose Saldivar’s parents : Jose Gregorio Saldivar Garza and Juana Maria Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala Silva
Jose Gregorios parents : Agustin Saldivar Garza and Ana Josefa Rodriguez de Montemayor ( married Feb. 6, 1732 )
Agustin Saldivars parents : Juan Saldivar and Ysabel de la Garza Montemayor
In still searching and trying to connect the Zaldivars or Saldivars to the ones in Zacatecas .
Gotta go ,
Welester
> From: eaherold@att.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:08:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > http://www.registropublicocoahuila.gob.mx/ Registro de Civil COahuila> > in doing research you must check death certificates for places of birth. Do you have the death certificate for Juan Jose Saldivar or a baptism? What documents do you have Quirina Saldivar Gomez and what do the documents say?> > –> Esther A. Herold> > > ————– Original message from Lester Alvarado : ————– > > > > Howdy Ernie , > > No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see > > somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center > > to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted . > > > > Welester > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know > > if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part > > of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75 > > years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen > > newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> > > > Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> > > > > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect > > my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de > > Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I > > believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have > > anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo , > > I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the> > > > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo: > > Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:> > > > MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra> > de minaLengua: > > ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:> > 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: > > PROTOCOLOSVolumen: > > 1Expediente: > > 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don > > Diego> > Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de> > Saldívar, hija > > del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,> > su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las > > cuatro que> > le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,> > por > > donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en> > las minas de Nuestra Señora > > del Rosario, en el cerro> > de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de> > > > Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,> > Secretario. Testigos Marcos > > y Bernabé de las Casas> > y Francisco de Treviño.> > > > This coming monday Im > > going to visit the genealogist> > in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he > > has a> > copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna> > check and see if > > there is any info I can use to> > connect the dots .> > > > Thanks ,> > > > Welester> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:> > > > chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:> > general@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > research@nuestrosranchos.org;> > announce@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros> > Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > Members facing the> > gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped> > from > > our roster I> would like to offer my help in> > organizing your family> tree, or > > research> > objectives.> > I am available here in person in San> > Francsicso, > > or by> email.> I like working with> > historical matters. > > If you have not > > submitted> > your family tree because you> don’t feel it is> > ready, at least > > let me take a look at> it. > > We> > can work together to get you past the > > coming>> > deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you> > with us.> > > > Christmas greetings to all. 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Hi there Esther ,
First off , Thanks for the help . #1. I haven’t checked on the death certificates or baptisms but I will . #2. I have the marraige certificate of Candelario Alvarado and Quirina Saldivar dated Oct. 26, 1844 married in the church of Villa de Santiago , Nuevo Leon .
In the marriage certificate it shows Juan Jose Saldivar and Maria Ygnacia Gomez as the parents of Quirina . Juan and Maria were married on Sept. 25, 1817 . I don’t have the origen of the marraige .
Here is what I have :
Quirina Saldivar Gomez : parents are Juan Jose Saldivar Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala and Maria Ygnacia Gomez Alanis
Juan Jose Saldivar’s parents : Jose Gregorio Saldivar Garza and Juana Maria Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala Silva
Jose Gregorios parents : Agustin Saldivar Garza and Ana Josefa Rodriguez de Montemayor ( married Feb. 6, 1732 )
Agustin Saldivars parents : Juan Saldivar and Ysabel de la Garza Montemayor
In still searching and trying to connect the Zaldivars or Saldivars to the ones in Zacatecas .
Gotta go ,
Welester
> From: eaherold@att.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:08:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos Members facing the gallows!> > http://www.registropublicocoahuila.gob.mx/ Registro de Civil COahuila> > in doing research you must check death certificates for places of birth. Do you have the death certificate for Juan Jose Saldivar or a baptism? What documents do you have Quirina Saldivar Gomez and what do the documents say?> > –> Esther A. Herold> > > ————– Original message from Lester Alvarado : ————– > > > > Howdy Ernie , > > No , I haven’t heard of them but I will look into it for you , let’s see > > somewhere around 1931 . I will also ask my friends at the Family Search Center > > to keep an eye out . Will keep you posted . > > > > Welester > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:07 -0800> From: chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To: > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > Members facing the gallows!> > It’s good to hear from you.> > I’ll let you know > > if I can dig anything up.> > I have relatives I’ve never met in Nuevo Leon. Part > > of> my maternal Porras clan. They left Hidalgo del Parral,> Chihuahua maybe 75 > > years ago to open a branch of> Pastas Porras in Nuevo Leon.> > I’ve seen > > newspaper clippings of them, whiter than> white!> Have you heard of them?> > > > Happy Holdiays, Ernie.> > > — Lester Alvarado wrote:> > > > > Hello Ernie ,> > > > Maybe you could help me here , I am trying to> > connect > > my great great grandmother her name is> > Quirina Saldivar Gomez to Vicente de > > Zaldivar in> > Zacatecas . Quirina’s father was Juan Jose Saldivar> > . I > > believe that his father was from Saltillo ,> > Coahuila from there I don’t have > > anymore info . I> > have read that one of Vicente’s son’s came to> > Saltillo , > > I just don’t know when . > > > > In the Archivos Historicos de Monterrey in the> > > > protocolos there appears the name of Saldivar here> > is what it says :Fondo: > > Ciudad Metropolitana de> > Monterrey (segunda época)Sección de Fondo:> > > > MinasSerie: DonacionesTítulo: Donación de una barra> > de minaLengua: > > ESPAÑOLLugar: MONTERREYFecha:> > 12/Sep/1633Fojas: 1Colección: > > PROTOCOLOSVolumen: > > 1Expediente: > > 1Folio: 31 NO.21Notas: Descripción: Don > > Diego> > Fernández de Montemayor hace donación a doña Ana de> > Saldívar, hija > > del Capitán don Vicente de Saldívar,> > su sobrina, de una barra de mina de las > > cuatro que> > le pertenecen a doña Juliana de las Casas, su mujer,> > por > > donación de Marcos de las Casas, su hermano, en> > las minas de Nuestra Señora > > del Rosario, en el cerro> > de San Nicolás de Tolentino. Ante Miguel de> > > > Montemayor, Alcalde Ordinario, y Juan de Ábrego,> > Secretario. Testigos Marcos > > y Bernabé de las Casas> > y Francisco de Treviño.> > > > This coming monday Im > > going to visit the genealogist> > in Vill de Santiago here in Nuevo Leon , he > > has a> > copy of Guillermo Garmendia Leal’s book . Im gonna> > check and see if > > there is any info I can use to> > connect the dots .> > > > Thanks ,> > > > Welester> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:10:29 -0800> From:> > > > chuparrosa50@yahoo.com> To:> > general@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > research@nuestrosranchos.org;> > announce@nuestrosranchos.org;> > > > general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros> > Ranchos] Nuestros Ranchos > > Members facing the> > gallows!> > For those of you about to be dropped> > from > > our roster I> would like to offer my help in> > organizing your family> tree, or > > research> > objectives.> > I am available here in person in San> > Francsicso, > > or by> email.> I like working with> > historical matters. > > If you have not > > submitted> > your family tree because you> don’t feel it is> > ready, at least > > let me take a look at> it. > > We> > can work together to get you past the > > coming>> > deadline.> We are stonger as a community with you> > with us.> > > > Christmas greetings to all. Have a happy> > and healthy> holiday.> > Ernie > > Alderete> 47 th> > Avenue @ Balboa> San Francisco, Ca. 94121> >> > Felicidades > > Navidenas y Guadalupanas a todos.> > > >> >> > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > > ____>> > Any questions? 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