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(@pat-silva-corbera)
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Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Helyn, Joseph and everyone,

I feel that most everyone in this group has been very giving of their time, talent and knowledge. It is because of the many that I have received much from this group. I could go on and on about the virtues of each person. Isn’t that why we belong to this cyber group of family research? To learn and also to share what we learn, to share our techniques and strategies, especially with those who are new to genealogy.

Some people share their technical know-how which I benefit from, some share their PAF expertise of which I have also been the recipient, historical research strategies in Salt Lake and at local family history centers. Their command of the spanish language, maps, etc etc.

Joseph and Arturo, our thanks to you for making this group what it is today.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 12:15 am
(@scooterpie1968)
Posts: 118
 

I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 1:30 am
(@scooterpie1968)
Posts: 118
 

I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 1:30 am
(@pat-silva-corbera)
Posts: 488
 

You can sit/stand/and ask questions with me, I don’t speak, write or understand Spanish, but that’s not going to stop me from going. ;-)) . Pat

Peggy Delgado wrote: I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:00 am
(@pat-silva-corbera)
Posts: 488
 

You can sit/stand/and ask questions with me, I don’t speak, write or understand Spanish, but that’s not going to stop me from going. ;-)) . Pat

Peggy Delgado wrote: I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:00 am
(@oldcar53)
Posts: 776
 

Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.

Patricia, in that link that Arturo sent out today for diccionario biografico click on it and go to the letter J. You will find Juanacatic, del partido de Villanueva Zacatecas. It also references rancho de Guadalupe and partido de Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman. This in all likelihood is what you are searching for as it is closer to Momax.

This Guadalupe Zacatecas is very close to Zacatecas, Zacatecas and is probably not the one your are searching for. It is quite a distance from Momax
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat
Let us know if this is worked out for you.
Alicia

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:30 am
(@oldcar53)
Posts: 776
 

Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.

Patricia, in that link that Arturo sent out today for diccionario biografico click on it and go to the letter J. You will find Juanacatic, del partido de Villanueva Zacatecas. It also references rancho de Guadalupe and partido de Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman. This in all likelihood is what you are searching for as it is closer to Momax.

This Guadalupe Zacatecas is very close to Zacatecas, Zacatecas and is probably not the one your are searching for. It is quite a distance from Momax
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat
Let us know if this is worked out for you.
Alicia

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:30 am
(@oldcar53)
Posts: 776
 

Pat, Peggy and anyone else that is even remotely considering the trip, listen up. The purpose of this trip is so that those people who would not otherwise visit their ancestral towns will have an opportunity to do so.
It is not required that you speak the spanish language, it is a requirement that you pay for your trip, lodging, meals and expenses and contribute towards the bus or tour transportation including tips and a tour guide if necessary. We are very early into the planning process and if you indeed are interested as the time draws near we will see how many people are still serious about the trip. At the time it is decided who is going we will ask for some input as to the specific towns we may all want to visit that are within our research areas and we might even consider some special area of interest even if it is not for research but for play and relaxation.

Hope this helps,

Alicia

You can sit/stand/and ask questions with me, I don’t speak, write or understand Spanish, but that’s not going to stop me from going. ;-)) . Pat

Peggy Delgado wrote: I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:45 am
(@oldcar53)
Posts: 776
 

Pat, Peggy and anyone else that is even remotely considering the trip, listen up. The purpose of this trip is so that those people who would not otherwise visit their ancestral towns will have an opportunity to do so.
It is not required that you speak the spanish language, it is a requirement that you pay for your trip, lodging, meals and expenses and contribute towards the bus or tour transportation including tips and a tour guide if necessary. We are very early into the planning process and if you indeed are interested as the time draws near we will see how many people are still serious about the trip. At the time it is decided who is going we will ask for some input as to the specific towns we may all want to visit that are within our research areas and we might even consider some special area of interest even if it is not for research but for play and relaxation.

Hope this helps,

Alicia

You can sit/stand/and ask questions with me, I don’t speak, write or understand Spanish, but that’s not going to stop me from going. ;-)) . Pat

Peggy Delgado wrote: I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 2:45 am
(@mistyriver123)
Posts: 122
 

Due to short term memory loss, I can not recall the name of the file/link that was posted with the names/locations of the various ranchos/pueblos. Do believe this may be a good resource for Pat in finding some of the locations in her area of research.
Thanks, Helyn

Patricia Corbera wrote:
Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Helyn, Joseph and everyone,

I feel that most everyone in this group has been very giving of their time, talent and knowledge. It is because of the many that I have received much from this group. I could go on and on about the virtues of each person. Isn’t that why we belong to this cyber group of family research? To learn and also to share what we learn, to share our techniques and strategies, especially with those who are new to genealogy.

Some people share their technical know-how which I benefit from, some share their PAF expertise of which I have also been the recipient, historical research strategies in Salt Lake and at local family history centers. Their command of the spanish language, maps, etc etc.

Joseph and Arturo, our thanks to you for making this group what it is today.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 3:00 am
(@mistyriver123)
Posts: 122
 

Due to short term memory loss, I can not recall the name of the file/link that was posted with the names/locations of the various ranchos/pueblos. Do believe this may be a good resource for Pat in finding some of the locations in her area of research.
Thanks, Helyn

Patricia Corbera wrote:
Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Helyn, Joseph and everyone,

I feel that most everyone in this group has been very giving of their time, talent and knowledge. It is because of the many that I have received much from this group. I could go on and on about the virtues of each person. Isn’t that why we belong to this cyber group of family research? To learn and also to share what we learn, to share our techniques and strategies, especially with those who are new to genealogy.

Some people share their technical know-how which I benefit from, some share their PAF expertise of which I have also been the recipient, historical research strategies in Salt Lake and at local family history centers. Their command of the spanish language, maps, etc etc.

Joseph and Arturo, our thanks to you for making this group what it is today.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 3:00 am
(@mistyriver123)
Posts: 122
 

Peggy, You would certainly NOT be a handicap. I for one, would be happy to translate for you. I can translate simultaneously from Spanish to English, but not proficient the other way around.

One of the ladies in the group, who is considering the journey to Zacatecas, does not speak Spanish…so, there is always room for one more. Bet you will return with a new vocabulary.
Saludos, Helyn

Peggy Delgado wrote:
I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 3:30 am
(@mistyriver123)
Posts: 122
 

Peggy, You would certainly NOT be a handicap. I for one, would be happy to translate for you. I can translate simultaneously from Spanish to English, but not proficient the other way around.

One of the ladies in the group, who is considering the journey to Zacatecas, does not speak Spanish…so, there is always room for one more. Bet you will return with a new vocabulary.
Saludos, Helyn

Peggy Delgado wrote:
I’m still thinking I’d like to go too, but would I handicap anyone by not speaking Spanish? I think I’d probably be asking and asking, “what did he say?”….and taking away from the trip. However, I’ve always wanted to go to Zacatecas to see where my family came from….I just didn’t think it would happen. Keep us informed with the details!

Peggy Delgado

beelieve wrote:
That goes for me too! Alecia is wonderful and so giving of her time and
knowledge.
I also one day hope to go to Zacatecas with some of the group. Even though
my Spanish would probably embarrass everyone.;-) I still have that inner
hunger to walk where my ancestors walked!
Hope

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 3:30 am
(@pat-silva-corbera)
Posts: 488
 

Dear Helyn, Alicia, Maria, Linda and all Ranchos,
Once again, my sincere appreciation for your kindness and helpfulness. I tried to access the Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos website, but only saw the letter A. I think the index/indice is not appearing because I don’t have Java-Script software installed on my computer. I was able to figure out the website address to get to the letter J, but it wouldn’t let me access any of the listings. I’ll search the Internet for a Java download.
Thank you,
Pat.

Santos Luna wrote:
Due to short term memory loss, I can not recall the name of the file/link that was posted with the names/locations of the various ranchos/pueblos. Do believe this may be a good resource for Pat in finding some of the locations in her area of research.
Thanks, Helyn

Patricia Corbera
wrote:
Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Helyn, Joseph and everyone,

I feel that most everyone in this group has been very giving of their time, talent and knowledge. It is because of the many that I have received much from this group. I could go on and on about the virtues of each person. Isn’t that why we belong to this cyber group of family research? To learn and also to share what we learn, to share our techniques and strategies, especially with those who are new to genealogy.

Some people share their technical know-how which I benefit from, some share their PAF expertise of which I have also been the recipient, historical research strategies in Salt Lake and at local family history centers. Their command of the spanish language, maps, etc etc.

Joseph and Arturo, our thanks to you for making this group what it is today.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

 
Posted : 30/06/2006 5:30 am
(@pat-silva-corbera)
Posts: 488
 

Dear Helyn, Alicia, Maria, Linda and all Ranchos,
Once again, my sincere appreciation for your kindness and helpfulness. I tried to access the Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos website, but only saw the letter A. I think the index/indice is not appearing because I don’t have Java-Script software installed on my computer. I was able to figure out the website address to get to the letter J, but it wouldn’t let me access any of the listings. I’ll search the Internet for a Java download.
Thank you,
Pat.

Santos Luna wrote:
Due to short term memory loss, I can not recall the name of the file/link that was posted with the names/locations of the various ranchos/pueblos. Do believe this may be a good resource for Pat in finding some of the locations in her area of research.
Thanks, Helyn

Patricia Corbera
wrote:
Alicia and fellow Ranchos,

What I’m finding to be very difficult for me, is that even though reference is being made to Momax (as an example) as being the ancestral “area.” Vital records for that area may be located in at least three different parishes, if not more. Reference to Ranchos de Los Pintos, hasn’t help to establish what films should be ordered.
I did locate FHC listing for Guadalupe, Zacatecas, so I’ll check out some of those films to see if Guadalupe de Juanacatis is located there.
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Helyn, Joseph and everyone,

I feel that most everyone in this group has been very giving of their time, talent and knowledge. It is because of the many that I have received much from this group. I could go on and on about the virtues of each person. Isn’t that why we belong to this cyber group of family research? To learn and also to share what we learn, to share our techniques and strategies, especially with those who are new to genealogy.

Some people share their technical know-how which I benefit from, some share their PAF expertise of which I have also been the recipient, historical research strategies in Salt Lake and at local family history centers. Their command of the spanish language, maps, etc etc.

Joseph and Arturo, our thanks to you for making this group what it is today.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

 
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